How to DISABLE Fire by Rank?

[EmperorBatman999]

I'm been getting back into ETW after awhile because of all the great mods coming out. However, there is one thing that has bothered me and that is rank fire. It is completely unrealistic and I want to either disable its effects (and replace it with something else?) or take it off the tech tree altogether.

Thanks.

[p.jakub88]

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I think that there is a tutorial, how to delete a technology permanently, but you will need to check it.

In my patch.pack file ( patch5.pack for ETW 1.6 ) i have a db table called technologies_tables.

Using Pack File Manager 1.13 you could i.e change their research time and increase it i.e to 3000 research points ( lots of years to research...maybe 30 or even more ) and it will be impossible to get....

Or try to delete a row with this particular technology.

Maybe this is held in *.lua or *.luac file too?

For technologies effects you will need to find proper db table.

The description of technologies is held for sure in one of the *.loc files.

I attached some images to help you find those 2 db tables and research time column.

I hope this help!


P.S.

I see that in TWCenter lots of people hate this technology.

Why? It is so unrealistic and historical inaccurate?


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[Tango12345]

I'm been getting back into ETW after awhile because of all the great mods coming out. However, there is one thing that has bothered me and that is rank fire. It is completely unrealistic and I want to either disable its effects (and replace it with something else?) or take it off the tech tree altogether.

Thanks.

EB-fire by rank is actually the most realistic drill in ETW, perhaps you are talking about Fire and Advance or Platoon Fire?
Just a question.

Whichever one it is, simply deleting it will cause crashes, you'll have to change the bonuses you get from the tech or remove the ability from all of the units that can use it (this is what Darth did in DarthMod for example with Platoon Fire and Fire and advance, you can still research them, and they give othe bonuses to troops, but the soldiers don't actually use them.)

[p.jakub88]

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Yes you are right Tango 12345,

he should simply increase the research time for this technology to highest level possible ( thousands of research points ), so noone will be able to research it during Grand Campaign.....

It is located in technologies_tables in patch.pack ( or patch5.pack when using ETW 1.6 ).

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[The Hedge Knight]

Or you can pull my favorite trick in unit_abilites_tables and make fire by rank obseleted by bayonets or somthing.

[EmperorBatman999]

Or you can pull my favorite trick in unit_abilites_tables and make fire by rank obseleted by bayonets or somthing.

And how would I do this? This sounds easiest.

And I don't want to make it 30000 tech points because FBR is a needed tech on the military tech tree?

[p.jakub88]

Eh, you have problems mate....go and delete this technology and edit other tables related to it.

Why all the people here, are against fire by rank technology?!

[Tango12345]

EB, I've got to ask, why do you want to delete FBR considering it is definitely historical????

[percydanvers]

EB, I've got to ask, why do you want to delete FBR considering it is definitely historical????

It's historical all right, but it does make your units a lot clumsier, they have to get into formation to fire and wait for everyone to be loaded before firing, which makes the unit worthless when you have to quickly stop an onrushing tide of enemy troops. Much easier to just have the front rank fire in its own time.

[EmperorBatman999]

EB, I've got to ask, why do you want to delete FBR considering it is definitely historical????

I heard the drill was too difficult to do in the heat of battle and reserved only for parades and military theory.

I was thinking of keeping the tech available, but make it improve reload speed.

[percydanvers]

EB, I've got to ask, why do you want to delete FBR considering it is definitely historical????

It definately is historical, but I don't think it works well as a gameplay thing. Notice how units have to keep reforming when they change their target, all while taking heavy casualties.

[Tango12345]

true I suppose