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    Default so why america can do whatever she wants?

    i mean. never heard of any critisicm or any act at all from the UN on the many many many war crimes that america commited in iraq and afganistan.

    . its really out of control. soldiers filming themselves shooting civilians for fun:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stq1Gd3OnGk

    and many other cases of killing civilians,torturing going on in guantanamo. the fact that they arrest people with no proofs and hold them in prison untill trial (with the wonderfull patriot act of them.off course really patriotic law) there are many inncont people there just arrested with no evidences rooting there wating for a trial.

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    Political Mudpit?...
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    You should ask British the same question one hundred years ago...
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    You should ask British the same question one hundred years ago...
    so you agree that america is really control this little world. i mean. wtf obama win the nobal prize of peace?

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    Quote Originally Posted by frank_garrett View Post
    so you agree that america is really control this little world. i mean. wtf obama win the nobal prize of peace?
    Because Norwegian wanted a lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by frank_garrett View Post
    so you agree that america is really control this little world. i mean. wtf obama win the nobal prize of peace?
    I still cant figure out why the hell he got that... I am a proud American who disagrees with many of the approaches we bring to certain issues, largely our economic approach....


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    Default Re: so why america can do whatever she wants?

    because power trumps all,
    even the very rules u set up in the first place

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    Quote Originally Posted by frank_garrett View Post
    i mean. never heard of any critisicm or any act at all from the UN on the many many many war crimes that america commited in iraq and afganistan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrets54 View Post

    haha! It is true that no resolutions have been past...like thats a surprise, none have been passed against any security council member, but criticisms have loudly been made

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    There are no other superpowers in the world today, thats the answer. The real question is, shall we have China to balance the power or a democratic united europe? Shame nationalism and seperatism will never make the later work, but hey we can always dream, right?

    And that Obama got the peace prize was not because their dominance, but because a stupid judge.

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    I always thought he got the prize for not starting a war the last three weeks - what was then quite remarkable for an US president.

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    Default Re: so why america can do whatever she wants?

    Humm.

    Economical, political and military power?


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    Quote Originally Posted by HansDuet View Post
    Humm.

    Economical, political and military power?
    true. but im just so angry. because also in the world media no one dare to say it

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    Quote Originally Posted by frank_garrett View Post
    true. but im just so angry. because also in the world media no one dare to say it

    Depends on what you read.

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    Most be another world. German media, for example, is full of "evil America" stuff.

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    Default Re: so why america can do whatever she wants?

    Quote Originally Posted by frank_garrett View Post
    true. but im just so angry. because also in the world media no one dare to say it
    What? How did you come to that conclusion? I heven't yet experienced any non US media not being critical towards the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frank_garrett View Post
    true. but im just so angry. because also in the world media no one dare to say it
    You've been living under a rock or something?

    US foreign policy gets maybe even too much flak from media.


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    Because it can. Simple as that. Just like the British could, just like the French tried to (and failed on most occasions), just Charlemagne could, just like the Romans could etc etc. The theory of self maximising states always trying to one up each other, will always mean the world's greatest power will behave in such a way.

    Be glad it's the United States though, despite some of their failings there is a genuine desire to do good in the United States and to use their power for good. Just like existed with Victorian Britain. This is quite different to the way the USSR or modern China would use the power that comes with being a hegemon. The problem is when you're top dog no matter what you do you'll get criticised. The French and Germans constantly knock the United States yet ignore just how much money was sunk into their economies to kick start them after WW2, how America protected them from the Soviets and how America continues to plan missile shields to protect them from the likes of Iran. There is no gratitude when you're top dog, people ignore the good you do and insult you for the mistakes you make.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Londinium View Post
    Because it can. Simple as that. Just like the British could, just like the French tried to (and failed on most occasions), just Charlemagne could, just like the Romans could etc etc. The theory of self maximising states always trying to one up each other, will always mean the world's greatest power will behave in such a way.

    Be glad it's the United States though, despite some of their failings there is a genuine desire to do good in the United States and to use their power for good. Just like existed with Victorian Britain. This is quite different to the way the USSR or modern China would use the power that comes with being a hegemon. The problem is when you're top dog no matter what you do you'll get criticised. The French and Germans constantly knock the United States yet ignore just how much money was sunk into their economies to kick start them after WW2, how America protected them from the Soviets and how America continues to plan missile shields to protect them from the likes of Iran. There is no gratitude when you're top dog, people ignore the good you do and insult you for the mistakes you make.
    Thank you for pointing out that we in the United States do actually accomplish some good when we exercise our power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Londinium View Post
    Because it can. Simple as that. Just like the British could, just like the French tried to (and failed on most occasions), just Charlemagne could, just like the Romans could etc etc. The theory of self maximising states always trying to one up each other, will always mean the world's greatest power will behave in such a way.

    Be glad it's the United States though, despite some of their failings there is a genuine desire to do good in the United States and to use their power for good. Just like existed with Victorian Britain. This is quite different to the way the USSR or modern China would use the power that comes with being a hegemon. The problem is when you're top dog no matter what you do you'll get criticised. The French and Germans constantly knock the United States yet ignore just how much money was sunk into their economies to kick start them after WW2, how America protected them from the Soviets and how America continues to plan missile shields to protect them from the likes of Iran. There is no gratitude when you're top dog, people ignore the good you do and insult you for the mistakes you make.
    Both Russia and China are deeply committed to humanitarian missions worldwide. Russia for example has been contributing greatly to space exploration. You act like the US is some shining beacon of light out there when much of what we do is causing the problems. Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan. Iraq was a shining example of our ing stupidity. Lets invade a country, turn it upside down, and wait for the jihadists to roll in.

    Our war on drugs has been a for American taxpayers and the CIA, the tool by which American presidents exercise their power, have been propping up dictators since 1938.

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