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    I forgot that yesterday was the anniversary of the outbreak of Greek Independence War, which incidentally is part of our mod. I wish the best to our Greek brethren, allies and friend.

    Best regards from Romania


    P.S. Any aid in making Greece (and Eteria) as accurately as possible is welcomed

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    i tink it will be better to make some units from eteria .. becouse a faction will be to much ! for this organisation !

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    Quote Originally Posted by vadik15 View Post
    i tink it will be better to make some units from eteria .. becouse a faction will be to much ! for this organisation !
    For now I haven't yet dealt with the issue. It might take some time. In anyways, if it will be a faction it won't be playable.

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    After finishing Wallachia which faction are you planning on touching next?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wallachian View Post
    After finishing Wallachia which faction are you planning on touching next?
    It is indeed a time to think about our next steps. I foresee Moldavia and probably Serbia and Poland. And then the next campaign - my special focus in the next one will be to create from the scratch a Czech faction.

    But there is still time. However, a short report for the week's advancements.

    1. I upgraded the Ottomans' citizenry status so they overpass a normal militia. We'll see the results...
    2. daNOVA graciously granted us permission to use his units from Ornamentum (I'll post a unit later this evening). So thank you danova, .
    3. I've sent Husserl a sketch of the missions. So thank you for your incredible help, Husserl
    4. This should have been a surprise, but I can't help it so sorry for spoiling it, but I changed the Wallachian militia to a 'special units' of fire fighters in remembrance of the heroes of Dealul Spirii (1848) (for details see the pictures in the 2nd page of the thread where I usually post pictures.


    5. I made some minor modifications to a Cavalry unit from the Austrian rebels (changed their hats, and gave them pistols instead of carabines, etc.) I called it Haiduci, though they resemble more to Mounted Pandurs.

    6. I continue changing the eventpics.

    Stay tuned for the coming pics.

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    That is just excellent news! Danova is a master of unit making. The ornamentum units are the ones from Empire right?

    And the idea of the firemen is so good! I was actually thinking if you were gonna make a firemen unit, and they fit just perfect instead of the 'armed citizenry' unit. Your right about the haiduks, they look a bit too official with those uniforms. Maybe use a torso from a more 'rustic' looking unit instead. Maybe even some of Danova's units from Ornamentum like the Albanian unit. Just a suggestion...

    Serbia? Poland? Awesome, just awesome! What about Hungary? Or is that covered by Danova's units?

    Can you use this awesome Vernet painting of the Paris barricades in 1848 as an event pic or loading screen anywhere?

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    Last edited by Wallachian; March 30, 2011 at 04:47 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wallachian View Post
    That is just excellent news! Danova is a master of unit making. The ornamentum units are the ones from Empire right?

    And the idea of the firemen is so good! I was actually thinking if you were gonna make a firemen unit, and they fit just perfect instead of the 'armed citizenry' unit. Your right about the haiduks, they look a bit too official with those uniforms. Maybe use a torso from a more 'rustic' looking unit instead. Maybe even some of Danova's units from Ornamentum like the Albanian unit. Just a suggestion...

    Serbia? Poland? Awesome, just awesome! What about Hungary? Or is that covered by Danova's units?
    I'm really glad you like the firemen. I had this idea for such a long time (first time playing Wallachia in Victoria years ago, when a 'spawned' militia of 500 destroyed a retreating Russian army by pure luck, I suppose, - named them Firemen from Dealul Spirii... not to mention that I lived for years close to Dealu Spirii ).

    As for the Haidouks I might change them with one of Danova's units (some hussars that look less official). Changing their torso with the torso of a unit from a different faction (as say Ottomans) is too much for me - I mean I get the theory, but the practice ... However it took me hours to make them shooting their pistols, which I find kind of cool after all .

    Hungary will be left as it is for the first campaign. In the second I really hope that our Hungarian friends will help us making a great roster with the different cool units like Hussars and Honveds.

    Maybe some Serbian or Polish friends are reading this thread and may want to help us in workin the roster for the factions.

    P.S. You've read my mind with the Vernet pic I already have it for the events and I might also have added it to the 25 different loading screens we'll have .
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    Simply stunning. Can't wait for the release!!!!

    You could start a cooperation with the Victorian age mod for the Western units, and also could give them suggestions about the Romanian principalities, btw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RO Citizen View Post
    Simply stunning. Can't wait for the release!!!!

    You could start a cooperation with the Victorian age mod for the Western units, and also could give them suggestions about the Romanian principalities, btw.
    I am sincerely very glad you like the last installments. A cooperation with the Victorian age is one of the things I was thinking about, for when I started modding I had in mind precisely the Victoria series . Thus I naturally appreciate their work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RO Citizen View Post
    Simply stunning. Can't wait for the release!!!!

    You could start a cooperation with the Victorian age mod for the Western units, and also could give them suggestions about the Romanian principalities, btw.
    Unfortunately, i don't think they will have the principalities in Victoria. Especially because Bulgaria and Wallachia are one province and Sofia is the capital. The un-modability of the map is just killing NTW and ETW!

    But, yes Victoria does have some great units and whats more they have pickelhauben! I don't know when the Prussians and other german nations adopted it though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wallachian View Post
    Unfortunately, i don't think they will have the principalities in Victoria. Especially because Bulgaria and Wallachia are one province and Sofia is the capital. The un-modability of the map is just killing NTW and ETW!

    But, yes Victoria does have some great units and whats more they have pickelhauben! I don't know when the Prussians and other german nations adopted it though.
    The ETw Victoria, too, then, but I was thinking about The Victorian mod for Napoleon (Blood and Iron or something, it always changes it's name), which can have the principalities
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    Great! i love that painting, saw it the first time on a book i bought called 1848 Year of Revolution by Mike Rapport (which is an excellent account of the revolutions by the way).

    Ahh fair enough, i don't know much about modding so I thought changing just a torso is easy. Yeah they are definetly cool shooting pistols instead of carabines.

    It would be great to some more people commenting around here from other countries to help. So far its about 4-5 of us from the same country, Husserl and the odd ones out. By the way i found some great pics of Hungarian army in 1848 on the net if you need any.

    P.S. maybe you should move all the great stuff from the second page into the first post on the first page to attract more attention to the great work already done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wallachian View Post
    P.S. maybe you should move all the great stuff from the second page into the first post on the first page to attract more attention to the great work already done.
    This may sound very newbie, but how does one do that? I've read and re-read the FAQs, but they don't really enlighten me concerning this issue

    And I hope that we didn't leave the impression that 'National Revolutions' is a 'Romanian' mod. From my point of view the revolutions of 1848 were as European as say, EU law or the European League (I'm exaggerating, but still...). The point is that they depict a paradox in overtly celebrating 'nation' and 'difference' while in the same time sparking from an Enlightenment tradition of opposing absolutism. In anyways, I really hope someone out there will hear us.

    Cheers, and thanks for your comments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sotericus View Post
    This may sound very newbie, but how does one do that? I've read and re-read the FAQs, but they don't really enlighten me concerning this issue

    And I hope that we didn't leave the impression that 'National Revolutions' is a 'Romanian' mod. From my point of view the revolutions of 1848 were as European as say, EU law or the European League (I'm exaggerating, but still...). The point is that they depict a paradox in overtly celebrating 'nation' and 'difference' while in the same time sparking from an Enlightenment tradition of opposing absolutism. In anyways, I really hope someone out there will hear us.

    Cheers, and thanks for your comments.
    Great news, I cannot wait to play with haiduci. In addition to them, you could create a similar unit, but armed with rifles (Panduri calare) like in this picture:
    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/album...ictureid=51153



    At first I had the same problem, but I managed to solve it
    All you have to do is to edit the first post, by copying over it the content you wish to add.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mircea View Post
    Great news, I cannot wait to play with haiduci. In addition to them, you could create a similar unit, but armed with rifles (Panduri calare) like in this picture:
    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/album...ictureid=51153



    At first I had the same problem, but I managed to solve it
    All you have to do is to edit the first post, by copying over it the content you wish to add.
    Thank you, mircea. I've just moved them Hope this will increase the mod's visibility.

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    Ahhh my bad, yes I know the one you are talking about. Gunny's mod. I thought you meant the one for ETW. Yes, indeed co-operation with that would be great. And it says in the OP for Gunny's mod that there is a collection of mods covering the time from Vanilla, through Victorian era to TGW. So far there is the Crimean War mod and the Blood and Iron mod, maybe this mod could come into that collection being set right between vanilla and the Crimean War?
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    Great, maybe put the post where you showed the situation in the world at the start of the mod in the first post aswell

    Just found this old thread here that Danova started about a proposed mod for 1848 Hungarian Revolution http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=375122 That Honved looks amazing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wallachian View Post
    Great, maybe put the post where you showed the situation in the world at the start of the mod in the first post aswell

    Just found this old thread here that Danova started about a proposed mod for 1848 Hungarian Revolution http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=375122 That Honved looks amazing!
    Yup. But some map are outdated I might put only the map of europe after the Vienna Congress.
    I knew Danova's pic. It's truly awesome. We cannot but hope that he'll have the time to give us some insights.

    Otherwise I've tested a bit yesterday evening and the strangest thing happened . A French Army occupied Vienna and Innsbruk (they might have came by boat ). So I modded "Napoleon" (which is now Charles X) and gave him only 3 ranks as a general and a pretty feable status. I'll see the next days if this works.

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    Hahaha nooo! as a self-confessed Bonapartist I will not stand by while the Emperor is being demoted to a mere 3 star general ) just joking sounds great, put up some pics up if it ends up working ok

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    You should've killed Napoleon instead. France will still be OP. You could give France a new created general, Charlie X, while giving Napoleon to Romania (Tudor Vladimirescu, leader of the country and army). This may be hard, nonetheless, but I'm just suggesting.
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