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    Default Why Can't Foreign Born Citizens Become US Presidents?

    simple question,

    some countries allow foreign born residents to become leaders of the country, so why doesnt the united states?

    the Republicans' best bet for unseating obama is President Schwarzeneggar, and everyone here knows it

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    Default Re: Why Can't Foreign Born Citizens Become US Presidents?

    well having a terminator for a president would be pretty badasss

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaketh View Post
    well having a terminator for a president would be pretty badasss
    I'd vote for him

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    Default Re: Why Can't Foreign Born Citizens Become US Presidents?

    indeed,
    still, it seems like a silly precondition, sound in theory but fails in practice like so many other things.
    say u get a migrant kid who works his way through college, gets a scholarship, joins the military, gets commissioned, runs for senator, gets elected and has proven his loyalty to the USG but is still excluded from the OVal Office?

    that's bogus man

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    Default Re: Why Can't Foreign Born Citizens Become US Presidents?

    It's so that America doesn't become the puppet of another country because the president is foreign.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ♔EmperorBatman999♔ View Post
    It's so that America doesn't become the puppet of another country because the president is foreign.
    heh, too late for that, bro
    certain xyz-american lobby groups will twist the nipple of any president to get their way, *cough*AIPAC*cough*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exarch View Post
    heh, too late for that, bro
    certain xyz-american lobby groups will twist the nipple of any president to get their way, *cough*AIPAC*cough*
    Well the founding fathers didn't know that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exarch View Post
    heh, too late for that, bro
    certain xyz-american lobby groups will twist the nipple of any president to get their way, *cough*AIPAC*cough*
    That's antisemitic, man.
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    Looking for a career change Exarch?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulyaoth View Post
    That's antisemitic, man.
    no, it isn't
    it's a stated fact, AIPAC is the most powerful lobby group in the united states-to the point where it's debatable whether or not AIPAC's loyalties are to US interests or Israeli interests.

    i don' begrudge AIPAC for what they're doing, but if they at least owned up to what they're doing i'd respect that a little more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exarch View Post
    heh, too late for that, bro
    certain xyz-american lobby groups will twist the nipple of any president to get their way, *cough*AIPAC*cough*
    OMG! Jews did USA!!!!111!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exarch View Post
    heh, too late for that, bro
    certain xyz-american lobby groups will twist the nipple of any president to get their way, *cough*AIPAC*cough*
    The USA's president in Natenyahu, Obama and all those are symbolic like the Queen...
    But seriously that's stupid.

    As for your thread, it's probably just tradition. It's like those laws in random English villages where you're allowed to kill a Welshman after 5 o'Clock is he is carrying a bundle of hay etc. If there was a serious foreign contender for the presidency of the USA (or the chance of a murder of a hay-carrying Welshman) the law would probably be revoked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ♔Goodguy1066♔ View Post

    As for your thread, it's probably just tradition. It's like those laws in random English villages where you're allowed to kill a Welshman after 5 o'Clock is he is carrying a bundle of hay etc. If there was a serious foreign contender for the presidency of the USA (or the chance of a murder of a hay-carrying Welshman) the law would probably be revoked.
    legally kill a welshman after 5pm eh
    lock and load, boys
    well thing is, some democratic countries allow for citizens born outside th ecountry to become heads of state, and some have served admirably

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    Quote Originally Posted by ♔Goodguy1066♔ View Post
    The USA's president in Natenyahu, Obama and all those are symbolic like the Queen...
    But seriously that's stupid.

    As for your thread, it's probably just tradition. It's like those laws in random English villages where you're allowed to kill a Welshman after 5 o'Clock is he is carrying a bundle of hay etc. If there was a serious foreign contender for the presidency of the USA (or the chance of a murder of a hay-carrying Welshman) the law would probably be revoked.
    It would take a Constitutional Amendment.

    That means that either Congress must propose an amendment by a 2/3 vote in the House and the Senate OR a constitutional convention must be called by 2/3 of state legislatures.

    The proposed amendment must then be voted favorably upon by 3/4 of the states legislatures to be passed.

    And this is no short task, the time limit placed upon the Amendment process is 7 years.

    So... by the time said foreign candidate could know if the Amendment had been made or not, he may no longer even be a viable candidate.

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    its called the Manchurian Candidate clause

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    I believe it's so that there is no true foriegn influence at the highest seat of the Executive Brance creating a bias for a certain country. For example, say we elected a Turkish-born president. Now the idea of not even allowing a foriegn-born president to come to office is so that hypothetical Turkish-born president doesn't have a bais and favors his home country of Turkey, letting them in on deals and such and such, and all around looking out more for Turkey than the citizens of his own country.

    Electing only US-born citizens to the Presidency, in theory assures he only looks after the needs of his own people and not those of other nations, he puts American citizens before anyone else.

    Again, that's only in theory as there are alot of examples where presidents don't give a damn about American wants and needs, but that's why that rule is there.

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    Default Re: Why Can't Foreign Born Citizens Become US Presidents?

    Pretty damn simple: to keep the chief military authority free of potential foreign influence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Del Valle View Post
    Pretty damn simple: to keep the chief military authority free of potential foreign influence.
    Doesn't necessarily work. For an example, see this.

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    To be honest its pretty simple(ok, not simple, very hard, but realistic anyway) to gain a lot of influence even without being the actual president.
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