Would Saruman have...

[Zigama]

IMPORTANT NOTE: I am not in any way suggesting that this be added into this mod, as I think it would ruin the game (and trash the lore as well).

Lets say that Saruman decided to build up more in Isengard before attacking Rohan. We know he had Middle Earth's equivalent of gunpowder to build mines like the ones used at Helm's Deep. But do you think it would have ever dawned on him that he could use this substance for more? Would he ever have made a crude hand-held gun for his Uruks?

Try to remember when stating your opinion that this topic is theoretical.

[mattgoby]

Im fairly sure he would have done but it would have taken him 50-100years thinking about how long it took for this to happen in the real world, and shortening that length of time because saruman has magic.

[Elitewolf]

Im fairly sure he would have done but it would have taken him 50-100years thinking about how long it took for this to happen in the real world, and shortening that length of time because saruman has magic.

SEconded. It'd save some fiddling around with the proper thickness and stuff of gun barrels, but it would still take long enough to get Sauron's ass kicked before he had anything which doesnt go BOOM in your hands, methinks

[Lugiahua]

SEconded. It'd save some fiddling around with the proper thickness and stuff of gun barrels, but it would still take long enough to get Sauron's ass kicked before he had anything which doesnt go BOOM in your hands, methinks

I don't think he cares about his Uruk or orcs...

[Tropical Bob]

I think the more likely alternative would be him downsizing the bombs to get grenades for his Uruks.

[Domino]

I think the more likely alternative would be him downsizing the bombs to get grenades for his Uruks.

He would be able to get grenades in time, probably this is indeed the most logical option.

[jinjo]

sauron and saruman didn't have such a long period

[Muffer Nl]

Saruman does not care for his Orcs or Uruks, I see a vision of Orcs and Uruks charging with bombs strapped to their body's screeming...

Now where have I seen that before

[Zack-Stefy]

Saruman does not care for his Orcs or Uruks, I see a vision of Orcs and Uruks charging with bombs strapped to their body's screeming...

Now where have I seen that before

Star Wars-Empire at war? lol

[Domino]

''Freeeedoooom !!!!!!''
wait a sec... He didn't had bombs did he? :p

[Rero]

jihad-uruks:

these fanatical uruk-hai is armed with a bomb in their backpackwhich they use by running into their enemy and getting blown to pieces.

[Muffer Nl]

jihad-uruks:

these fanatical uruk-hai is armed with a bomb in their backpackwhich they use by running into their enemy and getting blown to pieces.

He got it right, Lord of the Rings The Two Towers video games and Generic Muslim Terrorists.

[Argeleb]

He got it right, Lord of the Rings The Two Towers video games and Generic Muslim Terrorists.

The second last mission in that game where you have to defend that damn door...alone...

[Big Pacha]

He got it right, Lord of the Rings The Two Towers video games and Generic Muslim Terrorists.

Generic Terrorists, not necessarily "Islamists" (who are not Muslim but traitors IMO) although I know they use it very often.
1- The hindu Tamil Tigers terrorists (Sri Lanka) invented bomb strapping
2- Remember that Kamikaze is a japanese word (means Gods Wind)

Now about that topic: lore-wise, Saruman has mines & sappers = bombs. Making grenades seems very difficult. It took about 200 years IRH. For fun, Isengard could develop some sort of flamethrowers. Saruman has the tech for that + there's already a Med2 Kg unit to convert = the Byzantine roster of Kg Crusades. They throw "greek fire".

[SinerAthin]

*Imagines rambo Lurtz with a 50.cal mowing down whole lines of Rohan horsemen*
Lurtz: ''WHERE'S THE HALFLING?!''



Dear god, NOOOOO!!

[Leeroy Jenkins]

*Imagines rambo Lurtz with a 50.cal mowing down whole lines of Rohan horsemen*
Lurtz: ''WHERE'S THE HALFLING?!''



Dear god, NOOOOO!!

OMG LOL! XD I can totally see that!

[fightermedic]

can't help it but i like the idea of having early granade units at the absolute end of sarumans tech tree

[Master Necromancer]

IMPORTANT NOTE: I am not in any way suggesting that this be added into this mod, as I think it would ruin the game (and trash the lore as well).

Lets say that Saruman decided to build up more in Isengard before attacking Rohan. We know he had Middle Earth's equivalent of gunpowder to build mines like the ones used at Helm's Deep. But do you think it would have ever dawned on him that he could use this substance for more? Would he ever have made a crude hand-held gun for his Uruks?

Try to remember when stating your opinion that this topic is theoretical.

In pure theory, mines are not exactly complex devices, you put a lot of gunpowder in one place and then an idiot Uruk blows it and itself to pieces.

Guns on the other hand are very complex, but in theory he could think up a crude cannon.

But IMHO it would ruin the Tolkien feel.

[Jollefjoll]

Well I guess Saruman would care about his uruks/orcs, due to if he looses all of them, he is lost.

[Domino]

Well I guess Saruman would care about his uruks/orcs, due to if he looses all of them, he is lost.

10 000 uruks, not even counting orks...
Even if he kills 3000 of his followers when he's experimenting, it still isn't any problem.