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    Default Micheal Moore owns Halliburton!

    I'm just sharing this with everyone for two reasons. 1) It's interesting and I know it will spur on heavy debate. 2) It's down right funny and well written (IMO).

    How the Grinch Stole Michael Moore
    By Peter Schweizer
    December 13, 2005

    In a recent speech broadcast on C-SPAN, Michael Moore complains that a "crazy person" (that would be me) has been spreading lies about him, including the story that he owns stock in a number of evil vicious multinational corporations, including Halliburton. "Michael Moore own Halliburton stock?" the anti-corporate activist told his supporters at the Paul Wellstone Memorial Dinner. "See, that's like a great comedy line. I know it's not true - I mean, I've never owned a share of stock in my life." He went on: "Anybody who knows me knows that, you know - who's gonna believe that? Just crazy people are going to believe it - crazy people who tune-in to the Fox News Channel." (Looks like this crazy person is in good company.)

    On the back cover of my book, I include part of Michael Moore’s 990PF that he files with the IRS for a tax shelter he and his wife set up and control. The form clearly shows that Moore bought and sold shares in Halliburton and a number of other vicious, evil corporations. Look through the tax forms from 1998 to the present, and you will find more of the same.

    How is it possible for Michael Moore to say he doesn’t own any stock while his tax forms say otherwise? Since Michael Moore simply never lies, this must be a case of identity theft.

    Here is what must have happened. Someone set up a tax shelter and registered it at Michael Moore’s home address in Michigan. The thief transferred money from Moore’s accounts into this private foundation and then hired an investment broker to pour the money into corporate stock and bonds. The thief must have practiced forging Michael Moore’s name because the signature on the tax form is a perfect match. To make matters worse, the thief must look exactly like Michael Moore because the only other person involved with the tax shelter is his wife, Kathleen Glynn, and she never noticed anything going wrong. (The private foundation has no staff or other trustees.)

    So who is behind this nefarious plot? My first guess is Dick Cheney. Think about it, Cheney has a lot of experience with this covert operations. And a look at the stocks in portfolio includes plenty from the military-industrial complex and oil industry, who are of course all of Cheney’s best friends. When the Halliburton stock in question was first purchased, Cheney was CEO. What better way to boost the stock price than use Michael Moore’s money?

    But at second glance, this sort of operation is too soft for Cheney. If he wanted to get Mike, a dirty ops campaign like this would be too mild. Wouldn’t he just trump up charges and invade Michigan?

    That brings us to another possibility: Karl Rove. Whenever anything goes wrong on the Left (remember those fake Bush National Guard papers?), Mike thinks Rove is behind it. He has to be behind this, too, right?

    All joking aside, Michael Moore is following a tactic that too many of the liberal-leftist elite use to avoid any sort of accountability. Think about it: when was the last time you heard a leader of the Left apologize for anything? Too many seem to embrace the Stalinist precept that they cannot make mistakes.

    The real question facing the Left’s rank-and-file when it comes to the hypocrites I highlight in my book is this: are you going to stand by your principles or your heroes? If you truly believe what you claim, you shouldn’t tolerate this kind of hypocrisy on the part of your leaders.

    Conservative leaders who have fallen short publicly apologize, take responsibility for their actions, and work on changing. Leaders on the Left simply are not held into account in the same manner. The media give them a free pass and rank-and-file leftists do not want to question them. Being a leader on the Left means never having to say you are sorry. It’s time for that to change.

    So I ask those on the liberal-Left: Who are you going to believe, Michael Moore or his tax returns?

    Peter Schweizer's new book, Do As I Say (Not As I Do), is available from the FrontPage Magazine Bookstore for only $18.95.
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    Hehe pretty funny if true and wouldnt shock me, hell yesterday Reid called congress the most corrupt congress ever thanks to the Jack Abramoff scandal despite the fact Reid himself recieved money from Abramoff and unlike some of the republicans who did has indicated he wont give it back. Amazingly he has the nerve to call it a 'republican scandal' despite the fact HE got money from him as well.

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    crazy conservative conspiracy


    They got lucky and hijacked some airplanes. I could of done that drunk. War on terror is BS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Templedog
    crazy conservative conspiracy
    As always insightful and thoughtful commentary.

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    Harry Reid is a pathetic tool.

    Michael Moore is a selfish, self-promoting whiner who only exists to blindly promote the democratic agenda without any regard to reason.

    Those are my thoughts on this.

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    This doesn't surprise me, he strikes me as being a bit of an ideallist and like all people with that mindset even he can't live up to his own fantastical political and life fantasies never mind having other people do it.

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    Well before nailing moore to cross be nice to see a the irs form...I tend to give people the benfit of the doubt even disgusting pieces of crap like Moore something of which he doesnt do.

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    If he had any real evidence for his claims, wouldn't it be all over the internet already?
    There are those mythological IRS forms?
    I think, as with so many conspiracy theories, it's all a load of bull.



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    Michael Moore is an American hero.


    Are you joking? I can't tell.





    As for Micheal Moore,


    I hate his guts, I hate his family, and friends, and I hate everything associated with him. He and other propagandist (not limited to liberals) have ruined the US. He has vicously attacked President Bush using a network of lies and deciets, and cunning tricks to spin facts agianst a good cause. President Bush has fought the most effective war on terror, and you cant deny that. And what does Micheal Moore do? He releases Farenhiet 9/11 for the sole purpose of damaging him even more the the liberal news networks and god-damned democrats on capitol hill. How can you support a man who deliberatly divides this nation for the sole purpose of personal profit? He is not patriotic or american for that matter, just a fat self serving ignorant piece of liberal lard.
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    Careful what you wish for, Erik. I'm not here to hang Moore, but the proof is in the pudding. I too would love to see the actual form, and maybe after his book is finished with it's release we may just see it. I find it hard to believe this man would make it all up only to never reviel his proof.

    I guess we'll see, won't we. :original:

    Michael Moore denies
    owning Halliburton!
    But author who made charge
    answers tax returns don't lie


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    Posted: December 1, 2005
    1:00 a.m. Eastern

    In a nationally televised speech, filmmaker Michael Moore told a college audience he absolutely does not own any Halliburton stock – or any other stock for that matter – a charge leveled at him by author Peter Schweizer in the best-seller book "Do As I Say (Not As I Do)."

    There's just one problem with that denial, says Schweizer. He's got the tax returns of Moore's non-profit foundation to prove it – a non-profit foundation for which there are only two officers, Moore and his wife.

    "I think people find that stuff funny – Michael Moore owns Halliburton stock," said Moore in the Nov. 23 Mott College speech carried by C-SPAN. "That's like a great comedy line. I know it's not true. I've never owned a share of stock in my life -- anything. Did anyone see that a couple weeks ago? Somebody was yakking away. And I just thought, uh, that's funny, I guess. Anyone who knows me is not going to believe that. Who's going to believe that? Just crazy people are going to believe it."

    It must be the definition of the word "own" that is the source of controversy, suggests Schweizer, the author of a book on liberal hypocrisy. Moore has emphatically made the claim repeatedly over the years: "I don't own a single share of stock!"

    He's right. He doesn't own a single share. He owns tens of thousands of shares – including nearly 2,000 shares of Boeing, nearly 1,000 of Sonoco, more than 4,000 of Best Foods, more than 3,000 of Eli Lilly, more than 8,000 of Bank One and more than 2,000 of Halliburton, the company most vilified by Moore in "Fahrenheit 9/11," according to Schweizer's book.

    In fact, the Schedule D form declaring his capital gains and losses where his stock ownership is listed, it's emblazoned on the cover of Schweizer's book.

    But Moore's loophole may be that the stock is actually owned by his non-profit foundation – not him personally. However, Moore signed the return personally and controls the activity of the corporation.

    It's just one of the titillating, startling revelations by Schweizer, famous for his previous works, "Reagan's War" and "The Bushes."

    Other examples:

    House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, who proclaims her support for unions, yet the luxury resort, the vineyard and the restaurants she partly owns are strictly non-union. While she advocates tough new laws enforcing environmental regulations on the private sector, the exclusive country club she partly owns failed to comply with existing environmental regulations for the past eight years – including a failure to protect endangered species.

    Noam Chomsky has made a reputation for calling America a police state and branding the Pentagon "the most hideous institution on earth," yet his entire academic career, writes Schweizer, has been subsidized by the U.S. military.
    Barbra Streisand is another proponent of environmentalism, yet she drives an SUV, lives in a mansion and has a $22,000 annual water bill. In the past, she has driven to appointments in Beverly Hills in a motor home because of her aversion to using public bathrooms.

    Ralph Nader plays the role of the citizen avenger – the populist uninterested in wealth and materialism, pretending to live in a modest apartment. In fact, he lives in fancy homes registered in the names of his siblings.
    This is not just a book of "gotcha" journalism, explains Schweizer. He says the dozens and dozens of examples of "liberal hypocrisy" he cites in his book "are of central importance in evaluating the validity and usefulness of liberal ideas."

    "Using IRS records, court depositions, news reports, financial disclosures and their own statements, I sought to answer a particular question: Do these liberal leaders and activists practice what they preach?" he writes. "What I found was a stunning record of open and shameless hypocrisy. Those who champion the cause of organized labor had developed various methods to avoid paying union wages or shunned unions altogether. Those who believe that the rich need to pay more in taxes proved especially adept at avoiding taxes themselves. Critics of capitalism and corporate enterprise frequently invested in the very companies they denounced. Those who espouse strict environmental regulations worked vigorously to sidestep them when it came to their own businesses and properties. Those who advocate steep inheritance taxes to promote fairer income distribution hid their investments in trusts or exotic overseas locales to reduce their own tax liability. Those who are strong proponents of affirmative action rarely practiced it themselves, and some had abysmal records when it came to hiring minorities. Those who proclaim themselves champions of civil liberties when it comes to criminal or terrorist cases went to extraordinary lengths to curtail the civil liberties of others when they felt threatened or just inconvenienced. Advocates of gun control had no problem making sure that an arsenal of weapons was available to protect them from dangerous criminals."

    "Do As I Say (Not As I Do): Profiles in Liberal Hypocrisy."


    And let's not forget about Robert "I'm a big hypocrit" Kennedy, jr as he tells us to stop using so much fuel as he flies around in his private jet. Too good to use a commercial liner like the rest of us. I could own 20 Hummers and still never come close to the amount of fosil fuel that that big old liberal hypocrit uses.
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    Liberal left is that me? I'm economically quite a righty but still liberal. ****, I don't care what that fat Irish guy does, fahrneheit 9/11 ruined his career. Columbine was still mostly facts. I mean you got to be a retard to believe most of the things he says on fahrenheit 9/11. How can he be stupid enough to say: "I't isn't me, they lie!", when he has rediculated several people for using this excuse.

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    Michael Moore is an American hero. Shame on you people for being so unpatriotic. This forum needs a conspiracy section to put this with the aliens and ghost stories.


    They got lucky and hijacked some airplanes. I could of done that drunk. War on terror is BS.

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    Maybe American conservatives should act same for president Bush...

    So? Bush says he's responsible for Iraq war and everything. Big deal. What are people going to do with him then? Charge him with manslaugher? Has Michael Moore's action caused 2000+ death of US citizens?

    On the other hand, I know Michael moore possessed a share in GM or Ford (can't remember which)....

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    Evan_Kikla, you are a lost cause. Is your brain rotten? Yeah, the liberals wouldn't of invaded afganistan....

    yeah someone would make that up....makes for a good book. $$$cha ching$$$$ There is a market for rednecks that hate michael moore...


    They got lucky and hijacked some airplanes. I could of done that drunk. War on terror is BS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Templedog
    Evan_Kikla, you are a lost cause. Is your brain rotten? Yeah, the liberals wouldn't of invaded afganistan....

    yeah someone would make that up....makes for a good book. $$$cha ching$$$$ There is a market for rednecks that hate michael moore...
    Funny that you are defending Moore's utter BS on the subject while chasitzing Swietzer in the same breath! :laughing:

    Talk about hypocrits...

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    Flint, Mich. Paper Slams Michael Moore's Hypocrisy

    Even Michael Moore’s hometown newspaper is slamming the filmmaker over revelations contained in Peter Schweizer’s blockbuster new book.

    In "Do As I Say (Not As I Do): Profiles in Liberal Hypocrisy," Schweizer exposes Moore's "fake public persona,” the Flint Journal states in a review.

    Moore proudly points to his upbringing in the working-class Michigan city, a former United Auto Workers Union stronghold, and much of his movie "Roger & Me” was filmed there.

    But Moore does his film production in Canada to avoid paying union scale and threatened to fire half of his TV show's writing staff when they wanted to join a union, reviewer David Forsmark reports after reading Schweizer’s book.

    "He's a proponent of affirmative action but never has hired a black person to do anything important on one of his projects.
    "Moore claims he owns no stock and only puts ‘what little I can’ in ‘something the old-timers call a savings account’ - yet Schweizer writes that he owns stock in defense contractors and Halliburton.

    "Moore says he gives away 40 percent of his money, but Schweizer reports that his tax returns show his foundations give the minimum necessary to stay tax exempt.”

    Schweizer also exposes the hypocrisy of such high-profile liberals as Barbra Streisand, Ralph Nader, Nancy Pelosi, Al Franken, Noam Chomsky and Hillary Clinton, the review points out.

    "Could the reason Streisand, Franken and Moore advocate for affirmative action be because they know from looking at themselves that it is necessary?” reviewer Forsmark concludes.

    "After all, if these bitter enemies of racism and sexism can't be trusted to hire a diverse group of people, what hope can there be for corporate America to do so?
    "Perhaps Moore rails against globalization because he knows first-hand about the insidious lure of cheap, foreign scab labor.”

    Uh, oh. I smell pudding!!! Can't wait, either way, to put this to rest.

    I've got money on the pudding being very tasty indeed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Templedog
    Evan_Kikla, you are a lost cause. Is your brain rotten? Yeah, the liberals wouldn't of invaded afganistan....

    yeah someone would make that up....makes for a good book. $$$cha ching$$$$ There is a market for rednecks that hate michael moore...
    imagine for a second that al gore became president in 2001.
    imagine that the outcome of 9/11 was the same (which it would have been)
    i'm pretty sure that we would have invaded afghanistan
    we definatley wouldnt have sat around waiting for al qeada to attack us again if we had good reason to believe that they just killed 3000 americans

    we wouldnt have invaded iraq though
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyhigh
    imagine for a second that al gore became president in 2001.
    imagine that the outcome of 9/11 was the same (which it would have been)
    i'm pretty sure that we would have invaded afghanistan
    we definatley wouldnt have sat around waiting for al qeada to attack us again if we had good reason to believe that they just killed 3000 americans

    we wouldnt have invaded iraq though
    Maybe he didn't refer to the democrats when he said liberals?
    I dunno, I'm european...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyhigh
    imagine for a second that al gore became president in 2001.
    imagine that the outcome of 9/11 was the same (which it would have been)
    i'm pretty sure that we would have invaded afghanistan
    we definatley wouldnt have sat around waiting for al qeada to attack us again if we had good reason to believe that they just killed 3000 americans

    we wouldnt have invaded iraq though
    yeah, Iraq does nothing for us.....100% nothing. We are winning the war? Who is winning? Americans dont win jack. What am I winning? nothing, thats what. It's a shame that we americans are paying for. Led by "republicans", republicans my ass they are. Being conservative with what? WIth out dicks? Being tough on gays is not what a conservative is. repubs got highjacked. Everyday the debt grows and grows, and corps don't give a ****...they can only win.

    someone call me when they actually nuke a few cities...only then I will give a crap. pussies.
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    They got lucky and hijacked some airplanes. I could of done that drunk. War on terror is BS.

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    The simple fact that you think it's wrong for Michael Moore to own stock in the "evil" corp Haliburton, shows that you actually agree with Michael Moore.


    They got lucky and hijacked some airplanes. I could of done that drunk. War on terror is BS.

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    I don't, where have I said I do? We just love to point out what a FULL OF SHYTE HYPOCRIT he is. Does wonders for supporting our arguements about all that other BS that spews out of his over sized mouth.

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