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    Default Name the one unit you never use in 6.3

    Please name one unit you rarely or never use and that has no or zero impact on your games.

    Any unit can be voted for (don't forget the ships). I know there have been several topics on this in the past -
    but I always remember it beeing about general collecting of possibilities.
    If you name one or more units the first unit named will be counted. Thanks in advance for your input

    I'll go first:
    Merchant cavalry milita.

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    peasant infantrymen

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    Levy/peasant archers.... nice to have a range unit but just not worth lugging around. Might as well get some merc crossbowmen

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    Merchant cavalry milita.

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    Merchant cavalry milita.

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    Hobilars. Strangely they seem to be the only kind of cavalry unit I can recruit from even the most advanced stables as England.

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    Peasant archers OR peasant militia. Take your pick. They're cannon fodder at best, and I leave them in keeps just to try and balance the territory from rioting & keep squalor in check.

    Or, is that the point? O_o ?!
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    Peasant millitia. I actually use merchant cavalry quite often.
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    Hmm... Seriously, come to think of it i did use all kinds of unit in the game, even Peasant is pertty useful. In situation that when i don't have enough professional army to field the battle, they're good to support battleline. Not only that, they are prefect to use seige engine at seige, act as MP (to surpress riot ) and most important... CHEAP!

    Merchant calvary... when u don't have enough professional calvary, u'll love them XD. They come from Merchant guild in the city, which ensure they can come in bulk Of cuz dont' use them head on spearman or knight, but they're perfect to pick on archers, and flanking duty

    I think it's becuz i have played a year worth of 6.1 w/o the fixes, which left me can't recuit any professional army AT ALL for the mid-late game. Therefore i forced to use all different kind of militia. Of cuz I had a tough time, but i really enjoying it (especially the epic battle i have to rely on militias to fight with whole stack of France's professional army )

    Unit i used the least ... i guess it'll be javelins-type unit and seige weaponary (catapult, ballista.. etc)

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    Default Re: Name the one unit you never use in 6.3 and/or find obsolete

    Catapults
    Inaccurate as hell, and barely packs the punch to down a wooden wall.

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    Peasants or Peasant Infantry or whatever they are called. There is always something better available for only a little more money.

    I use merchant cav militia quite a bit, as they are recruitable from cities, unlike other cavalry.

    I also use levy archers all the time early on because there isn't anything else available. I find archers to be a lot more useful than crossbowmen for a long time because I don't like the micromanaging that crossbows require in battle to be very effective. It seems like one shot and then the enemy are upon them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBard View Post
    I also use levy archers all the time early on because there isn't anything else available. I find archers to be a lot more useful than crossbowmen for a long time because I don't like the micromanaging that crossbows require in battle to be very effective. It seems like one shot and then the enemy are upon them.
    xbow is lot better than bow on killing

    use this formation below (gap between tanking group, wide enough to shoot effectively, close enough to stop enemy pass through)

    FRONT
    \ T - T - T - T - T - T - T - T - T - T - T - T
    \-----------------------------------------------
    \ T-X -X - X -X -X - X - X - X -X -X - X -T
    \ -------C ----- S -----------S -----C------
    \ -----------C ------------------C---------
    REAR

    T: tanking units
    X: range unit: shoot through the gap to kill those attacking ur tanks
    C: horse: u can flank or charge through the gap between tanks
    S: seige engine
    -: gap
    Last edited by hellexpress; October 20, 2010 at 01:29 PM.

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    I use peasant archers all the time (in the early era), and mercahnt cavalry add fun flavor for me. I would have to say ballistas. I know they make sense, but they rarely have much effect on the battlefield and i NEVER use them, they cant break walls, they slow me down, and they hardly even kill troops. the only thing i can see using them for is sniping generals bodyguards. I dont think i would want them removed though. as for something i would want removed. Probably peasant militia. they just dont do anything, and the role of peasants is filled with the spearmen.
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    I think merchant cavalry is quite important for most factions in early ear since they don't have any horsemen in cities...

    I would go with Catapults too....so inaccurate that rather use bunch of peasant or spearmen to storm the wall...

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    All of the above are fairly useless units, unless you need some arrow-catchers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WelshDragon View Post
    All of the above are fairly useless units, unless you need some arrow-catchers.
    So... abstain?

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    Default Re: Name the one unit you never use in 6.3 and/or find obsolete

    I avoid using peasants at all costs, in fact I'd rather get a bunch of Peasant archers instead.

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    Ballista, now that they don't do damage to gates, are completely useless.

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    peasant infantrymen should not be removed: it's fun to charge your cavalry into them! And they are many!

    I suggest removing "spearmen" and replace them with "spear militia" (and the spear militia to be able to be upgraded to the strength of spearmen).

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    I don't get why there are both spearmen and spear militia for some factions since they are basically same unit..

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