The "high / low esteem" traits

[Ninefingers]

Hi all,

just wondering if anyone has ever actually managed to get the nickname "the Invincible" for any of their generals. It's the last level of the series of traits which begins with "High Esteem" and is awarded for successfully winning consequent battles.

Personally I've never seen any of my generals get anything above "High Esteem", and even that seems to disappear after just one or two turns of being stationed in a city to retrain troops. Just last night I had the same general win some eleven battles (clear victories, no heroics) over the span of ten turns and after the very last one, he finally received the "High Esteem" trait...which he lost the very next turn, due to his apparent 'inactivity' when I parked him in Axum to retrain troops.

I've only ever seen AI generals with the "Low Esteem" trait too, which is the first step of the negative version of the series.

Seems to me that the triggers are a little too demanding, though perhaps I'm missing something? Has anyone succeeded in getting higher levels of this trait?

[Pinkie Pie]

Trait EspritDeCorps
Characters family
Hidden
NoGoingBackLevel 4
AntiTraits AntiEspritDeCorps

Level High_Esteem
Description High_Esteem_desc
EffectsDescription High_Esteem_effects_desc
Threshold 10

Level Proud
Description Proud_desc
EffectsDescription Proud_effects_desc
Threshold 30


Level Invincible
Description Invincible_desc
EffectsDescription Invincible_effects_desc
GainMessage Invincible_gain_desc
LoseMessage Invincible_lose_desc
Epithet Invincible_epithet_desc
Threshold 90

if im reading that right then it takes 30 battles for the second level and 90 for the last
of course im not sure on that so someone else will have to clarify

on a side note, is there any way at all to get the imortal trait in xgm?

[DimeBagHo]

on a side note, is there any way at all to get the imortal trait in xgm?

No, that trait is required for compatibility with the Alexander exe, but it's not used in XGM. The effect is that the character does not die of old age, which is fine for the Alexander expansion, but wouldn't be suitable for the campaigns in XGM.

[Suppanut]

Hi all,

just wondering if anyone has ever actually managed to get the nickname "the Invincible" for any of their generals. It's the last level of the series of traits which begins with "High Esteem" and is awarded for successfully winning consequent battles.

Personally I've never seen any of my generals get anything above "High Esteem", and even that seems to disappear after just one or two turns of being stationed in a city to retrain troops. Just last night I had the same general win some eleven battles (clear victories, no heroics) over the span of ten turns and after the very last one, he finally received the "High Esteem" trait...which he lost the very next turn, due to his apparent 'inactivity' when I parked him in Axum to retrain troops.

I've only ever seen AI generals with the "Low Esteem" trait too, which is the first step of the negative version of the series.

Seems to me that the triggers are a little too demanding, though perhaps I'm missing something? Has anyone succeeded in getting higher levels of this trait?

Look like I set its threshold too high though. Perhap their threshold supposed to be half....

Dime, please reduces their threshold for me please.

[Pinkie Pie]

my suggestion would be 5-10-15

[Ninefingers]

Thanks for digging that up martin, I was at work and couldn't look up the file myself.

The threshold does look like a bit of a tall order - 90 battles with a single general would mean having to fight (and win) a battle every turn for 45 years, at which point he would be a minimum of 61 years old.

My suggestion would be for 5 - 15 - 25 as the thresholds.