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[ForteS]

VICTORIA MOD

This is a new sub-mod that will focus on the late century XIX representing majority the Victorian Era. The mod will include a completely new unit roster, completly new campaign that starts at 1867 and ends at 1914, new technologies, new buildings, and much more.

Info about XIX Century:

The 19th century was a period in history marked by the collapse of the Spanish, Portuguese, Chinese, Holy Roman and Mughal empires. This paved the way for the growing influence of the British Empire, the German Empire and the United States, spurring military conflicts but also advances in science and exploration.

After the defeat of the French Empire and its allies in the Napoleonic Wars, the British Empire became the world's leading power, controlling one quarter of the world's population and one fifth of the total land area. It enforced a Pax Britannica, encouraged trade, and battled rampant piracy. The 19th century was an era of invention and discovery, with significant developments in the fields of mathematics, physics, chemistry, biology, electricity, and metallurgy that lay the groundwork for the technological advances of the 20th century. The Industrial Revolution began in Europe. The Victorian era was notorious for the employment of young children in factories and mines.

Advances in medicine and the understanding of human anatomy and disease prevention took place in the 19th century, and were partly responsible for rapidly accelerating population growth in the western world. Europe's population doubled during the 19th century, from roughly 200 million to more than 400 million. The introduction of railroads provided the first major advancement in land transportation for centuries, changing the way people lived and obtained goods, and fueling major urbanization movements in countries across the globe. Numerous cities worldwide surpassed populations of a million or more during this century. London was transformed into the world's largest city and capital of the British Empire. Its population expanded from 1 million in 1800 to 6.7 million a century later. The last remaining undiscovered landmasses of Earth, including vast expanses of interior Africa and Asia, were discovered during this century, and with the exception of the extreme zones of the Arctic and Antarctic, accurate and detailed maps of the globe were available by the 1890s. Liberalism became the preeminent reform movement in Europe.

Slavery was greatly reduced around the world. Following a successful slave revolt in Haiti, Britain forced the Barbary pirates to halt their practice of kidnapping and enslaving Europeans, banned slavery throughout its domain, and charged its navy with ending the global slave trade. Britain abolished slavery in 1834, America's 13th Amendment following their Civil War abolished slavery there in 1865, and in Brazil slavery was abolished in 1888. Similarly, serfdom was abolished in Russia.

The 19th century was remarkable in the widespread formation of new settlement foundations which were particularly prevalent across North America and Australasia, with a significant proportion of the two continents' largest cities being founded at some point in the century. In the 19th century approximately 70 million people left Europe.
by: wikipedia

Preview

Units

In Victoria Mod you can expect completely new units, here are some previews. By Geronimo2006 Spoiler Alert, click show to read:  Spoiler Alert, click show to read:  By Danova Spoiler Alert, click show to read:  Spoiler Alert, click show to read:  Special thanks to daNova, Kungfuserge and cagatayc78 that let us use their models

Map

All towns/ports will be activated at campaign start Spoiler Alert, click show to read:  All north america towns will look like this: Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

Flags

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Nations

Major nations British Empire Under Construction United States Under Construction Italy Under Construction Russia Under Construction Spain Under Construction France Under Construction Austria Under Construction North German States Under Construction Ottoman Empire Under Construction Minor nations Belgic Under Construction Portugal Under Construction Moroco Under Construction Bavaria Under Construction Norway Under Construction Sweden Under Construction Denmark Under Construction Mexico Under Construction United States of Columbia Under Construction Guatemala Under Construction Venezuela Under Construction Haiti Under Construction Netherlands Under Construction Wurttemberg Under Construction Afghanistan Under Construction Persia Under Construction Greece Under Construction Emergent nations Poland Under Construction India Under Construction Serbia Under Construction Romania Under Construction Canada Under Construction Dominican Republic Under Construction

[Tango12345]

What about armies?

[ForteS]

I don't know how to do units, so if is there anybody that can do them and want to join me i would be very grateful.
I'll also try to find somebody that can help me in some pack and starpos changes, by that way of course i need somebody to help me in research other way i will not be able to add realistic governments and other things like that.

[Tango12345]

Something to bear in mind-there is a mod team who are trying to do a modern day mod, and they haven't done very much concrete since ETW was released. Also-modern era with DarthMod 18th century warfare-hmmm....good luuck with that I must say.


You would need a whole new set of AI, not to mention a whole new set of units-just changing the map wouldn't be enough.

[alhoon]

You would need a whole new set of AI, not to mention a whole new set of units-just changing the map wouldn't be enough.

Changing the map?

Is that possible now?

[ForteS]

If the man don't have dreams the man will never do, so i will do my best
If i fail I'll not be sad because at least I've tried
After think a wile I've decided that I'll not work in a WORLD sub-mod but just in Canada and maybe some other countries like this i'll be able to do a better and more precise mod

[Okmin]

I'll help, but I'm not sure what I could do... You seem to be able to do exactly the same stuff as me! Of course, I can test...

PS: Canada doesn't have many region... But obviously you'd replace Quebec to make this. At the same time, maybe give the US land to the west (we had all our current "Lower 48" territory by the early 1840s)? But then it would turn more into a North American mod.

[ForteS]

But then it would turn more into a North American mod.

I thing i'll change the name to that because if i want to make Canada historical accurate I'll have to work on all America theater, what i would be great full if you could do it was edit the diplomacy 'cause i'm bad in that.

My progress in the mod:
Canada territory given
Adjusting US territory to the one they have in 1867.

BTW maybe there is something you can help me, as the mod will start in year 1867 should Canada be protectorate of UK?

Edit: in case i haven't told yet the mod will have only America theater

[Okmin]

Okay, I'll do the diplomacy. Just tell me what settings you want. Canada is technically still a protectorate of GB ("protectorate" isn't the right term, but it's the closest one in ETW jargon ) but you should have them allied because Canada is mostly autonomous and playing with protectorate status causes... issues. Like not being able to declare war and not being able to break the protectorate-ship (you have to declare war on your protector, and you still lose half your income even while independent).

I'm trying to find a map from 1867 that doesn't just have Canada on it...

Caribbean, Central, and northern South America
We know that Canada and the US had everything they have today. Except Alaska and Hawaii, but they aren't on the map anyway.

[ForteS]

Ok thanks, they will be allies as you are right about autonomy (i've notified that we i was doing the companies )

[MatrixStorm]

I have made the flags you asked.
I even made a whole republic/monarchy set including battle and naval flags

If you don't like one, just tell me and I'll make another one

[ForteS]

I have made the flags you asked.
I even made a whole republic/monarchy set including battle and naval flags

If you don't like one, just tell me and I'll make another one

Thanks, I'll continue working on the mod tomorrow
Still can't give you rep

Edit: I'm trying to find already done flags to the other countries but if i fail I'll come up to you

[Babo]

I have made the flags you asked.
I even made a whole republic/monarchy set including battle and naval flags

If you don't like one, just tell me and I'll make another one

Not to be rude, but I'm not sure if your military flags are an appropriate choice. The flags you have are based on ones designed in the late 1960s.

I found a couple links to Canadian Government pages with flag chronologies on them.

Red Ensign Evolution

Military Flag Evolution in the 20th Century

Evolution of Canadian National Flags (also has some regimental flags from the period)

I couldn't find military flags from the North West Rebellion but I did manage to find a good site for information on the Second Boer War.

A collection of Boer War images and flags

Hopefully these links are of some help, let me know if there's anything you'd like me to look up.

[MatrixStorm]

Hey guys, I'm back and I'm on this too!
I can definitly help for Belgiun, and maybe Italy.

[Okmin]

I could do an American one, and the Mexican one already in DMUC is correct.

[MatrixStorm]

I could do an American one, and the Mexican one already in DMUC is correct.

The american ones are correct too...
Maybe the flag for Venezuela?

[ForteS]

Maybe the flag for Venezuela?

Flag of Venezuela here check the ones of 1863

Are you sure that USA one is the correct? check this see the one that dates of July 4, 1867 – July 3, 1877

Edit:

In 1867 we had 36 states.

Venezuela's flag for the time period: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Fl...63-1905%29.svg

I was posting at the same time

[Okmin]

I was posting at the same time

No problem I like this one...


Even though it wasn't used until 1877 (38 stars). What kind of end year are you looking at for the campaign? It would help with picking a US flag... Stupid Manifest Destiny makes things complicated for modders

Columbia at the time
The Second Mexican Empire had just been abolished, so Mexico has its modern territory.
Venezuela had their modern land.

Colonial Possessions:

• Britain: Bahamas, Jamaica, Leeward and Windward Islands, Trinidad & Tobago, Dutch Guyana
• Spain: Cuba
• France: French Guyana
• UP: Curacao

Problems:

• Considering the six countries that take up the rest of Central America, I'd say we could either divide up the land between Mexico and Columbia or pretend this country lasted a few decades longer.
• American flag changes
• Independence of Haiti and the Dominican Republic (they share Hispaniola)
• We need to make new factions. I'd replace New Spain to make any Central/South American nations and Louisiana to make whatever gets put on Hispaniola (French owned it last).

[ForteS]

Originally Posted by Okmin

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No problem I like this one...


Even though it wasn't used until 1877 (38 stars). What kind of end year are you looking at for the campaign? It would help with picking a US flag... Stupid Manifest Destiny makes things complicated for modders

Columbia at the time
The Second Mexican Empire had just been abolished, so Mexico has its modern territory.
Venezuela had their modern land.

Colonial Possessions:

• Britain: Bahamas, Jamaica, Leeward and Windward Islands, Trinidad & Tobago, Dutch Guyana
• Spain: Cuba
• France: French Guyana
• UP: Curacao

Problems:

• Considering the six countries that take up the rest of Central America, I'd say we could either divide up the land between Mexico and Columbia or pretend this country lasted a few decades longer.
• American flag changes
• Independence of Haiti and the Dominican Republic (they share Hispaniola)
• We need to make new factions. I'd replace New Spain to make any Central/South American nations and Louisiana to make whatever gets put on Hispaniola (French owned it last).

Well how many nations do we have at the moment? United States, Mexico, Britain, France, Spain, United provinces and Canada, for central America what do you thing of give Guatemala region to Guatemala, Panama and New Granada to United States of Colombia?
Any nation missing?

About the end year... don't know maybe until 1900 or 1910? we should not go much further because after 1900... well it's other story

[LordKainES]

Colonial Possessions:

• Britain: Bahamas, Jamaica, Leeward and Windward Islands, Trinidad & Tobago, Dutch Guyana
• Spain: Cuba
• France: French Guyana
• UP: Curacao

You forgot Puerto Rico!