Islamic Princesses Thread....Again

[Merula]

Ok here is what is happening, I want to be able to have pricesses for my glorious turkish empire, but SS does not have this incorporated, unlike most other mods now (I find this strange as SS is so good it has every other feature basically).
Now before you say "go use the search function", I already have done this and came up with many threads in the SS forums about this, but most were left unanswered or were just to confusing to understand(with my limited modding knowledge).

I eventually found "Zeph's Mod" for the islamic princesses and tried to incorporate that into SS, but to no avail, I just ended up with a CTD at the campaign loading screen without an error report

So my question is, has anyone managed to get Islamic princesses working in Stainless Steel?
If so, could you please give me a simple explanation on how to do it, or maybe some great modding expert has the files already and could upload for the rest of us mere mortals?

By the way i am playing 6.3 without 'BGR' but with everything else basically.
Sorry if this is in the wrong area...

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[vtec.dominion]

Yeah, thats what im missing badly.
Playing with Turks as well (Late Campaign) . I had some problems with family tree before, getting only adoption offers instead of marriage, but got it fixed. Re-started campaign and turtled for a while.
I found generals : settlement ratio is vital for your family tree. Now everything works perfect in my campaing.
Previously, i was expanding too rapidly hence the problems.
But still we need the islamic princesses. Hope it will be fixed soon.

[RollingWave]

true, this aspect should be re-examained, though the Muslims marriage didn't play as much of a role as it did in the Catholic factions, it wasn't completely irrelevant either.

For example, one of the Mamluk dynasty's sultan tried to reform the military sytem to try and "de-mamlukize" the state more, and to try and reduce the mamluk's predictable backlash he tried to increase marriage ties with the high ranking mamluks at that time etc..

[Merula]

true, this aspect should be re-examained, though the Muslims marriage didn't play as much of a role as it did in the Catholic factions, it wasn't completely irrelevant either.

For example, one of the Mamluk dynasty's sultan tried to reform the military sytem to try and "de-mamlukize" the state more, and to try and reduce the mamluk's predictable backlash he tried to increase marriage ties with the high ranking mamluks at that time etc..

Exactly, I am not saying this was common, but it did happen im sure, so would be a good element to include in the game. In my Turk game (late era) i was hoping to kill off the seljuk family and create a new dynasty like the ottomans, while still holding some royal blood in that family to make it legit. Thus i needed a princess, which unfortunantly did not exist.
The Islamic princesses could have limited activities too, like not being able to marry a western general and having less momement points or something (to signify the less common uses of a princess in the islamic world)

[Ishan]

Ok here is what is happening, I want to be able to have pricesses for my glorious turkish empire, but SS does not have this incorporated, unlike most other mods now (I find this strange as SS is so good it has every other feature basically).
I eventually found "Zeph's Mod" for the islamic princesses and tried to incorporate that into SS, but to no avail, I just ended up with a CTD at the campaign loading screen without an error report

Like i say a million times SS is no different it is a M2TW mod based on kingdoms.exe file.
So it will work on it 100%.

And about the Zeph's mod it won't work coz it has files that replaces some other files in SS which SS wants very badly.

For eg. the descr_sm_factions.txt

In this file you have to set have princess yes for the turks bu when if you replace it then factions like K. Shah, Kievan_rus etc gets removed coz the Zeph's mod don't have all that.

So we get CTD.

If anyone is interested in doing it in SS6.3 then buzz here i'll try to help in free time and move this thread to sub-mod location so that it can be done effectively.

It doesn't requires a lot of work proper UI cards, .cas models etc will make it work on SS.

[luciferleigh]

same as 6.1 and 6.2

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=358970

it still works, only difference is you have to edit your files afteryouve run the mod manager

and to marry (aka steal) rebel generals in descr_sm_factions modify the can_have_princess line to yes, same goes for the teutons if you want, just dont give them a family tree

[Merula]

Like i say a million times SS is no different it is a M2TW mod based on kingdoms.exe file.
So it will work on it 100%.

And about the Zeph's mod it won't work coz it has files that replaces some other files in SS which SS wants very badly.

For eg. the descr_sm_factions.txt

In this file you have to set have princess yes for the turks bu when if you replace it then factions like K. Shah, Kievan_rus etc gets removed coz the Zeph's mod don't have all that.

So we get CTD.

If anyone is interested in doing it in SS6.3 then buzz here i'll try to help in free time and move this thread to sub-mod location so that it can be done effectively.

It doesn't requires a lot of work proper UI cards, .cas models etc will make it work on SS.

Thankyou for a worthwhile reply Ishan, yes i realise that it is possible to mod SS and i even tried to mess with the descr_sm_factions.txt file to try and get it to work, it was just my inexperience and lack of modding knowledge that let me down i think.

I agree it would be easy enough to make into a submod, as there have already been UI cards, .cas models and the rest created by other modders, and it would be a simple matter of incorporating them all toghether then making it compatible for SS.

I would love to make this my sub mod but i do not have the time nor the skills to create this i fear, so therefore i am relying on some really nice person to have a go and create this mod! ( I would like to help of course.)

[SirRobin]

I actually like that there are some differences between the cultures and religions in the game..

[Ishan]

Along with desc_sm_factions.txt
One needs:-

• descr_character.txt
• descr_model_strat.txt
• And it's releveant files to be copied here and there.

And that's it.

[Merula]

Along with desc_sm_factions.txt
One needs:-

• descr_character.txt
• descr_model_strat.txt
• And it's releveant files to be copied here and there.

And that's it.

So what your saying is, is that i can do this by myself? is it easier than i thought?
Is it just a case of copy pasting (if i already have other peoples files like UI cards and such) and a bit of tweaking of the desc_sm_factions.txt?
Thanks so much for your help by the way

[Ishan]

So what your saying is, is that i can do this by myself? is it easier than i thought?
Is it just a case of copy pasting (if i already have other peoples files like UI cards and such) and a bit of tweaking of the desc_sm_factions.txt?
Thanks so much for your help by the way

Yes it's easy.
U have to place a few lines in descr_character.txt & descr_model_strat.txt.
After that change no to yes in the princess line in the descr_sm_facitons.txt file.

Put the necessary file like UI cards, .cas model for her and it's skin that is texture.

And done.
And their is always the log to check for errors if a file is skipped. For the whole thing it takes like 10-20 minutes depending upon the modder's experience.
And i'm the 20 min one.

[Merula]

Yes it's easy.
U have to place a few lines in descr_character.txt & descr_model_strat.txt.
After that change no to yes in the princess line in the descr_sm_facitons.txt file.

Put the necessary file like UI cards, .cas model for her and it's skin that is texture.

And done.
And their is always the log to check for errors if a file is skipped. For the whole thing it takes like 10-20 minutes depending upon the modder's experience.
And i'm the 20 min one.

Thanks soo much!! you may have to add another time bracket though, 1 hour!! (That is me)
I will try this and see if i can get it working for SS!! then if it does work i could upload it for the rest of the peeps!
Thanks again.

[Ishan]

Your Welcome.
And if u need help and more specifics then drop a VM at my wall.

[HolyDevil]

If you manage to get it working don't forget about the rest, I'm far too lazy right now to do it for myself XD

[Merula]

If you manage to get it working don't forget about the rest, I'm far too lazy right now to do it for myself XD

No i wont forget, but dont get your hopes up, i may not even be able to do it

[★Bandiera Rossa☭]

I have always been curious (well..at least since I played CAE) about whether there is a way to have marriages between Islamic Princesses and Christian Generals/Princes and vice versa. I will assume you can't, but I would be interested in knowing this since the subject of Islamic princesses has been brought up.