Playing Rome in RSII – A Basic Survival Guide

[Rex Basiliscus]

How does one use forced diplomacy, exactly?

If you want a diplomat to accept any proposal you make, just click the "?" once you've engaged in diplomacy. Then click show me how and there you go

[Brian93]

Thanks Aristotle!

How does one use forced diplomacy, exactly?

Are you speaking of the cheat? I'm pretty sure Creative Assembly removed that cheat from the game as of the 1.5 patch

[Dull_Gladius]

Thanks Aristotle!



Are you speaking of the cheat? I'm pretty sure Creative Assembly removed that cheat from the game as of the 1.5 patch

What cheat? There's a fairly heavily used mod called forced diplomacy that can force the AI into accepting any deal proposed by the player.

[Brian93]

What cheat? There's a fairly heavily used mod called forced diplomacy that can force the AI into accepting any deal proposed by the player.

Oh, I wasen't aware of such a mod lol. There used to be a forced diplomacy cheat in the game, but it was removed in patch 1.5, along with several others, such as invincible general cheat, jericho, and process_rq

EDIT: scratch that, jericho does work.

[Nota']

Ok, im probably doing something wrong but:
How do you recruit auxilias? Do you have to have Curia Hostilar in the settlement, because otherwise all i can recruit is ordinary legions, and they are not enough on their own, thanks.

[rory o'kane]

You do need the Curia Hostilia - it represents the reforms of Augustus, which involved the creation of the Auxilia.

[Nota']

Ah ok, thanks, I just thought it was a bit strange that the auxilia could be trained after legions in a settlement, and require citizenship. Surely youd get them from the most advanced and loyal, client states instead?
Is there any reason why the segmenta legions have almost exactly the same stats as the hamata legions? Surely theyd have a larger armour stat? Maybe in the patch their armour value should be increased and their defense skill value decreased to make sure the hamata legions are completely superceeded?

[rory o'kane]

They aren't completely superseded, because lorica hamata was never completely superseded - they have +1 armour, as i recall, and those with greaves and/or manicae (segmented arm guards - singular: manica) have an extra point on top of that.

[Nota']

The segmenta legion and the hamata legion i compared had the same armour, but the segmenta had +1 defence skill (and possibly +1 attack)
Are you saying not all legions got the new armour after the reforms?

[rory o'kane]

Well, they did, but legions, cohorts, and centuries were often a mixture of soldiers wearing segmentata and hamata (and sometimes squamata - aka scale). Since the RTW engine doesn't allow for our cohorts to have this more motley appearance, we're compromising by having some of our legions in hamata, and others in segmentata - you'll also notice some differences in the helmets and gladii too - to reflect that despite the impression given by Trajan's Column, the imperial roman legionary wasn't necessarily always seen equipped with Corbridge-pattern lorica segmentata, a mainz-fullham gladius and a Type G Imperial Gallic Helmet.

[Nota']

Thanks for explaining it to me.
Shame stuff couldnt be nicked from the Med 2 TW engine, so armour upgrades in campaign map makes the unit appear differently on the feild.

[Julianus Flavius]

Wow great guide Once I get Rome and RS2 working again I'll put it to the test haha. One question though, I thought the rebelions were random, so even if we follow your moves to the letter we'll all get a slightly different rebellion?

[Aristotle's Folly]

Wow great guide Once I get Rome and RS2 working again I'll put it to the test haha. One question though, I thought the rebelions were random, so even if we follow your moves to the letter we'll all get a slightly different rebellion?

The rebellion is "random" in the sense that any two southern Italian cities can rebel. So you might get Capua and Rhegion, or Cannae and Crotona, or whatever. I'm not sure if some cities are favored over others (if Capua has a greater change of being one of the rebel cities than, say, Crotona) or if all cities have an equal chance. But yes, if you follow these steps, you can still end up with a slightly different rebellion.

The stacks that are spawned during the rebellion, though, are the same no matter where it occurs. So the only thing that's random about the rebellion is where it occurs, and within a turn or two, when it occurs.

~ Dani ~

[Julianus Flavius]

Thanks + rep
Also, do you have any advice when it comes to controling Syracuse? for some reason I cannot keep that place content and it always riots and such?
EDIT: Oh and do you play with 1-turn or 0-turn recruitment?

[Aristotle's Folly]

Thanks + rep
Also, do you have any advice when it comes to controling Syracuse? for some reason I cannot keep that place content and it always riots and such?
EDIT: Oh and do you play with 1-turn or 0-turn recruitment?

I play 0-turn recruitment.

Syracuse is difficult to control. I usually take it early on in the game, after I deal with the first rebellion. Shortly thereafter, Greece usually attacks one of my Sicilian cities. I retaliate by sending a legion to Sicily to take to Syracuse. This is usually before 570 AUC.

When I take Syracuse, I have two options (three, but two are the most doable): I can kill off the population or I can enslave them. The third option, just leaving everyone there and trying to make it work, is doable, but you have to be on your toes and manage your buildings very carefully. If it's not already built, build Wells (they go a long way to making people happy). After that, Roman temples. Build the Jupiter Shrine (it's usually the first building I build when I take a city). This opens up all the other temples and I build one every other turn (the shrines are pretty inexpensive and only take one turn).

Between those, I build government buildings. Tear down any military buidlings the Greeks left - you can't use them anyway. If I'm in a foul mood, I tear down the Greek temples, too. Other than that, there's no benefit for tearing down any other buildings.

The easier way to take Syracuse and keep people happy, though, is chosing to either thin the population out by exterminating them (relocating them), or to enslave them. 9 times out of 10, I enslave them, mainly because I need population in other cities. Once I've done that, controlling Syraucuse is a breeze.

For the record, I do the same thing with Massilia. I take it shortly after I take Syracuse and while I'm still at war with the Greek Cities. Between the two, I get great trade income and, later on in the game, Massilia is one of the best unit producing cities on the map, producing 4 Imperial (named) legions and 4 or 5 different auxilia legions.

Of course, holding Massilia involves a never-ending battle with the Arverni, but what can I say: I never get tired of killing Arverni.

I hope that helps.

~ Dani ~

[toluas]

later on in the game, Massilia is one of the best unit producing cities on the map, producing 4 Imperial (named) legions and 4 or 5 different auxilia legions.

Talking of recruiting powerhouses: try Salonae, six (or even seven?) Imperial Legions. Lovin' it.

Of course, holding Massilia involves a never-ending battle with the Arverni, but what can I say: I never get tired of killing Arverni.

So true.

[toluas]

Talking of recruiting powerhouses: try Salonae, six (or even seven?) Imperial Legions. Lovin' it.

[chris10]

Talking of recruiting powerhouses: try Salonae, six (or even seven?) Imperial Legions. Lovin' it.

ups..didnt saw that.......anyway added Vesontio and confirmed the 7 for Salonae....
so it was not totally useless after all ....

[toluas]

so it was not totally useless after all ....

Not at all.

[chris10]

later on in the game, Massilia is one of the best unit producing cities on the map, producing 4 Imperial (named) legions and 4 or 5 different auxilia legions.
~ Dani ~

Nothing compared to the 6 Named Legions produced in Vesontio or the 7 Named Legions produced in Salonae