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    Default The Dangers of Beck's Campaign of Fear

    This is nothing new but I bet this will interest a few people here so I share it anyway.
    http://mediamatters.org/blog/201007270004



    Beck's incendiary angst is dangerously close to having a body count
    July 27, 2010 7:54 am ET by Eric Boehlert

    On his Monday radio show, Glenn Beck highlighted claims that before he started targeting a little-known, left-leaning organization called the Tides Foundation on his Fox News TV show, "nobody knew" what the non-profit was.

    Indeed, for more than a year Beck has been portraying the progressive organization as a central player in a larger, nefarious cabal of Marxist/socialist/Nazi Obama-loving outlets determined to destroy democracy in America. Beck has routinely smeared the low-profile entity for being staffed by "thugs" and "bullies" and involved in "the nasty of the nastiest," like indoctrinating schoolchildren and creating a "mass organization to seize power."

    As Media Matters reported, the conspiratorial host had mentioned (read: attacked) the little-known progressive organization nearly 30 times on his Fox program alone since it premiered in 2009, including several mentions in the last month. (Beck's the only TV talker who regularly references the foundation, according to our Nexis searches.)

    So yes, Beck has done all he can to scare the hell out of people about the Tides Foundation and "turn the light of day" onto an organization that actually facilitates non-profit giving.

    And guess what? Everybody in America would have found out about the Tides Foundation last week if Byron Williams had had his way. He's the right-wing, government-hating, gun-toting nut who strapped on his body armor, stocked a pickup truck with guns and ammo, and set off up the California coast to San Francisco in order to start killing employees at the previously obscure Tides Foundation in hopes of sparking a political revolution.

    Thankfully, the planned domestic terrorist attack never came to pass because California Highway Patrol officers pulled Williams over for drunk driving on his way to his killing spree. Williams quickly opened fire, wounding two officers during a lengthy shootout. Luckily, Williams wasn't able to act out the ultimate goal of his dark anger -- fueled by the TV news he watched -- about how "Congress was railroading through all these left-wing agenda items," as his mother put it. Williams wasn't able to open fire inside the offices of the Tides Foundation, an organization "nobody knew" about until Glenn Beck started targeting it.
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    And thankfully, Williams wasn't able to take his place alongside a growing list of domestic, anti-government terrorists, such as the recent Pentagon shooter, the Holocaust Museum gunman, the kamikaze pilot who flew his plane into an IRS building in Austin, Texas, and the Pittsburgh cop-killer who set up an ambush because he was convinced Obama was going to take away his guns.

    All the vigilante attacks appear to have been fueled by an almost pathological hatred for the U.S. government -- the same open hatred that right-wing bloggers, AM talk radio hosts, and Fox News' lineup of anti-government prophets have been frantically fueling for the last year, pushing doomsday warnings of America's democratic demise under President Obama.

    And the sad the sad truth is we're going to see more like Byron Williams. We're going to see more attempts at vigilante violence during the Age of Obama simply because the right-wing media, led by Beck, continue to gleefully (albeit irresponsibly) stoke dangerous fires with the kind of relentlessly incendiary rhetoric that has no match in terms of modern day, mainstream use in American politics or media.

    And don't forget about the unhinged response when health care reform was passed in March: "Get down on your knees and pray. Pray. It's September 11th all over again, except that we didn't have the collapsing buildings." After financial reform passed last week, Beck told his audience, "Your republic is over."

    Meanwhile, Andrew Breitbart's website recently tagged Obama as the "suicide-bomber-in-chief," while the conservative Washington Times just last week published an op-ed -- by a former congressman, no less -- asserting the president poses more of a threat to America than Al Qaeda.

    Note that the radical right's media rhetoric is no longer even political in a partisan sense. Instead, it's purely revolutionary. It isn't, "We think taxes should be lower" or "Obama should be more hawkish overseas." It's, "There's an insidious and deadly plot afoot by Democrats and progressives to strip Americans of their freedom and this country of its greatness." Obama is now the incarnation of evil (the Antichrist?), and his driving hatred for America, as well as for democracy, runs so deep that he ran for president in order to destroy the United States from inside the Oval Office.

    Rush Limbaugh: "Our country is being overthrown from within."

    And this summer, the latest toxic twist to that line of attack is that Obama is destroying America on purpose in order to exact revenge from white America for the historic sin of slavery. (Think: Black Manchurian Candidate.) The GOP Noise Machine is now mixing a vile cocktail by stirring revolutionary rhetoric with hateful race-baiting.

    It's impossible to argue that today's avalanche of insurrectionist rhetoric doesn't have a real world effect. Or that those on the fringes don't find comfort in seeing and hearing their worst fears legitimized on AM radio and Fox News.

    The consequences of the doomsday programming seem entirely predictable. As Jeffrey Jones, a professor of media and politics at Old Dominion University, recently explained to The New York Times in regard to Beck's rhetoric, "People hear their values are under attack and they get worried. It becomes an opportunity for them to stand up and do something."

    Indeed, the relentless message that right-wing audiences hear is unequivocal and inescapable: Do something! Take action!

    And last week, Byron Williams, likely inspired by Glenn Beck's Tides obsession, grabbed his guns and set out to do just that.
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    It's like the shooting of John Lennon being inspired by The Catcher in the Rye, or Reagan and Taxi Driver. Except Beck motivates through fear and hate. I'll preempt the people who'll come in and say that it's not Beck's fault this guy was insane, but it's highly likely Beck is partially responsible since no one would've heard of this foundation otherwise.

    And the remarks about Media Matters is biased against conservatives so it's all an exaggeration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvis View Post
    It's like the shooting of John Lennon being inspired by The Catcher in the Rye, or Reagan and Taxi Driver. Except Beck motivates through fear and hate. I'll preempt the people who'll come in and say that it's not Beck's fault this guy was insane, but it's highly likely Beck is partially responsible since no one would've heard of this foundation otherwise.

    And the remarks about Media Matters is biased against conservatives so it's all an exaggeration.
    Here Media matters reporting on the "whore" comment uttered by the Democratic candidate for CA governor. It was reported falsely by NYTs as an Aide who said Whore when referring to the Republican opponent Meg whitman.

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    I still don't know where I stand on Beck. I watched his show regularly for a while for amusement but I never liked him. He's clearly an idiot, but sometimes wisdom comes from the mouths of fools. He has pointed out a lot of factual information. The left is pretty far left. He's exposed that. As a critic of the administration he's decent. His own opinions are rather comical though. He's a conspiratorial nut. But he is sifting through a lot of questionable stuff in building these conspiracies. I'm not sure something's going on, but there's something wrong obviously as the economy is in the tank and the left are more concerned with exploiting the situation then fixing it. But so are the Republicans. And the Tea Parties are wasting their time. I don't know why Fox is so gay for them. They're not crazy or bad guys necessarily but protesting is stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Col. Tartleton View Post
    And the Tea Parties are wasting their time. I don't know why Fox is so gay for them. They're not crazy or bad guys necessarily but protesting is stupid.
    Some of them are pretty crazy like the ones that like to dress like Nazis:

    " Rich Iott,the Republican nominee for Congress from Ohio's 9th District, and a Tea Party favorite...for years donned a German Waffen SS uniform and participated in Nazi re-enactments. "

    http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/...-a-nazi/64319/
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    Here's another video that deals with Byron Williams.



    What a nutjob. I think in a few decades, people are going to look back at Glenn Beck and view him like Father Charles Coughlin (the crazy "radio preacher" of the 1930's) or someone like that.

    Quote Originally Posted by chilon View Post
    Some of them are pretty crazy like the ones that like to dress like Nazis:

    " Rich Iott,the Republican nominee for Congress from Ohio's 9th District, and a Tea Party favorite...for years donned a German Waffen SS uniform and participated in Nazi re-enactments. "

    http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/...-a-nazi/64319/
    Haha...who would reinact a Waffen SS platoon....thats insanity.

    The group actually has a website...where their disclaimer says...and I quote...

    We honor the men (and women) who really experienced the war, and we salute their courage and loyalty to put their lives on the line in defense of their native soil, no matter what nationality or government.
    An attempt to be PC that falls flat. Screw "no matter what nationality or government". Personally I have sympathy for German civilians that died in bombings, etc, like Dresden.....

    ...but I wish the Allies would have killed more Waffen SS. To hell with those murdering bastards.

    But, on another page of their site, you can see how this ties in with crazy American right wingers....

    It is our aim to bring you a bit of actual history behind the men who fought against the "Bolshevik scourge"; volunteers who came from the various Northern European countries allied with Hitler's Germany who only had a desire to see an end to Soviet Communism.
    Let's be honest, the SS volunteers from occupied Europe were scumbags. Pure facists, anti-Semities, hardcore Nazis. They were hardly just anti-Communists. The article goes on to mention the Spanish Blue Divison, recruited almost exclusively from the Spanish Falange.

    What a moronic distorted view of history these people have. It's like all they have done is watched the Military Channel or something, and have not read one actual history book.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Col. Tartleton View Post
    And the Tea Parties are wasting their time. I don't know why Fox is so gay for them.

    Because the business concerns that own Fox share the same interests as the business concerns that organize the Tea Party protests. Which is winning the battle for the minds of the people, so that they don't organize and take their power away.
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    Glenn Beck sucks.
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    Wow, he's quite the clown isn't he.

    Is he like a leftist conspiracy to make the right look like retards?
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    I have an antidote for Glenn Beck:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry of Grosmont View Post
    I have an antidote for Glenn Beck:
    ^THIS! Here is a quote from a recent NPR interview of Jon Stewart by Teri Gross that states the case against Beck far better than I could:

    [Jon Stewart] on deconstructing [Glenn] Beck
    "The beautiful thing about what he does is, it's very difficult to argue with his facts. It's the conclusions [that are problematic]. ... It's that slippery slope. ... So what you do is, you just grab together facts and put them together and then do a grab bag of conclusions. Everything is discovered as evidence of secret plots, of secret things that could be occurring."
    Excerpts from the interview may be found here as well as a link to the audio of the interview itself (about 44 minutes playing time).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry of Grosmont View Post
    I have an antidote for Glenn Beck:
    Yes, we must fight stupid with complete yness
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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry of Grosmont View Post
    I have an antidote for Glenn Beck:
    He isn't funny at all. Colbert does an extremely better job than he does, and really, Stewart is over rated. Nowadays at least.

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    It is our aim to bring you a bit of actual history behind the men who fought against the "Bolshevik scourge"; volunteers who came from the various Northern European countries allied with Hitler's Germany who only had a desire to see an end to Soviet Communism.
    Holy . That is an epic white-washing job.
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    Glenn Beck is just the Michael Moore for the right. Both sides have their nutty's.
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    Moore not that nutty mate. Moore believes very much in Universal healthcare and against the abuses of corporations but he is no Beck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MathiasOfAthens View Post
    Moore not that nutty mate. Moore believes very much in Universal healthcare and against the abuses of corporations but he is no Beck.
    Just as Beck is a fear-mongorer, Moore is a socialist patron.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scottypd54 View Post
    Just as Beck is a fear-mongorer, Moore is a socialist patron.
    Wtf kind of comparison is that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MathiasOfAthens View Post
    Moore not that nutty mate. Moore believes very much in Universal healthcare and against the abuses of corporations but he is no Beck.
    The hell he isnt, Moore does the same exact thing hell Beck has learned from him with taking facts and distorting them to suit his viewpoint. Hell Moore is worse because yet to see Beck edit video to make one thing appear as another. Media Matters 'sources' are also amusing considering they are backed by money from guys like George Soros.

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    As far as I know Moore doesn't encourage his fanbase through outright fear and paranoia so they think shooting up places is a good idea. Most of his fans are apathetic already so we're safe... For now.

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