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    http://edition.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/10...ss_igoogle_cnn
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    Eight suspects arrested in connection with a series of brutal, anti-gay hate crimes in New York City were arraigned Sunday.
    Charges against them include harassment, criminal possession of a weapon, unlawful imprisonment, assault, robbery and sexual abuse as hate crimes.
    Is Paladino playing to the Anti Gay electorate?

    New York (CNN) -- New York Republican gubernatorial candidate Carl Paladino is disputing some comments attributed to him Sunday, in which he criticized gays.
    The two lines in question were part of a longer, written political statement that was handed out at an address to a group of Orthodox Jews in Brooklyn's Williamsburg neighborhood and obtained by CNN from New York affiliate NY1.
    "There is nothing to be proud of in being a dysfunctional homosexual," the statement said. "That is not how God created us."
    "I do not agree with this passage, nor did I say it," Paladino said in a statement released late Sunday. "Apparently a few reporters relied upon suggested remarks distributed by my hosts at the synagogue in Williamsburg after my departure, not the actual statement I made."

    In his spoken comments, Paladino said he didn't want children "to be brainwashed into thinking that homosexuality is an equally valid or successful option," compared to heterosexuality. "It isn't."

    The candidate's remarks came a day after New York police announced the arrest of an eighth suspect in a series of brutal, anti-gay hate crimes against four men.
    He even attacked his opponent for appearing in a gay pride march. The guy says on one hand hes not anti gay but then on the other condemns anything to do with gayness. The guys a ing liar.
    "Don't misquote me as wanting to hurt homosexual people in any way," Paladino said Sunday. "That would be a dastardly lie -- my approach is live and let live."
    "I just think my children and your children would be much better off and much more successful getting married and raising a family," he said.
    Paladino also slammed his Democratic opponent, New York Attorney General Andrew Cuomo, for marching in New York's gay pride parade in June.
    "That's not the example that we should be showing the children and certainly not in our schools," he said.

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    "I just think my children and your children would be much better off and much more successful getting married and raising a family," he said.
    Paladino also slammed his Democratic opponent, New York Attorney General Andrew Cuomo, for marching in New York's gay pride parade in June.
    "That's not the example that we should be showing the children and certainly not in our schools," he said.
    So he poisoned the well and then proclaimed the oh so popular "THINK OF THE CHILDREN!"



    I can wager that this guy is probably a self-recognized social conservative. They're usually the ones who hide bigoted views under a cloak made of a subjective standard of family values.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strelok View Post
    So he poisoned the well and then proclaimed the oh so popular "THINK OF THE CHILDREN!"



    I can wager that this guy is probably a self-recognized social conservative. They're usually the ones who hide bigoted views under the cloak under a subjective standard of family values.
    While the subversive neo-left attempts to undermine family values and traditional values of any kind from behind a facade of human and minority rights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvis View Post
    Poor all of us, the Tea Party is making our political system substantially more retarded than it has been in modern times. Which is a hell of an achievement
    Whats really retarded is how many political parties we have in government. Its really only one with two different wings.
    Quote Originally Posted by wilpuri View Post
    While the subversive neo-left attempts to undermine family values and traditional values of any kind from behind a facade of human and minority rights.
    Really?

    You make it sound like its ok to hate Gays and Lesbians?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wilpuri View Post
    While the subversive neo-left attempts to undermine family values and traditional values of any kind from behind a facade of human and minority rights.
    What if he's also an ultra-nationalist, Wil. What do you do then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hotspur View Post
    What if he's also an ultra-nationalist, Wil. What do you do then?

    WHAT DO YOU DO!
    Who?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by wilpuri View Post
    Who?!
    The neo-left gay guy who wants to destroy traditional family values.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wilpuri View Post
    While the subversive neo-left attempts to undermine family values and traditional values of any kind from behind a facade of human and minority rights.
    I do indeed like to undermine certain peoples concept of "family values" and "traditional values" if they perpetuate an infringement or limit on the actions of others that are otherwise victimless except that they violate some peoples standards of traditional/family values.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wilpuri View Post
    While the subversive neo-left attempts to undermine family values and traditional values of any kind from behind a facade of human and minority rights.
    If family values have good enough foundations then undermining has no effect on anyone who doesn't want it, no-one's rights are infringed upon. Bigotry and arbitrary hatred at such a high level certainly opens the door for people's rights being infringed upon.

    It's all about human decency, try to have some.
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    He's a retard and hate monger.

    Why is his opinion even note worthy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Himster View Post
    He's a retard and hate monger.

    Why is his opinion even note worthy?
    Because he's up for election as governor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Himster View Post
    He's a retard and hate monger.

    Why is his opinion even note worthy?
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    Paladino? You mean the mafia thug?

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    Awww, poor New York.
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    Poor all of us, the Tea Party is making our political system substantially more retarded than it has been in modern times. Which is a hell of an achievement

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    Quote Originally Posted by MathiasOfAthens View Post
    http://edition.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/10...ss_igoogle_cnn
    http://edition.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS...ss_igoogle_cnn


    Is Paladino playing to the Anti Gay electorate?


    He even attacked his opponent for appearing in a gay pride march. The guy says on one hand hes not anti gay but then on the other condemns anything to do with gayness. The guys a ing liar.
    Cool the way you link this with some gay bashers, have you considered working for the NY Times?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phier View Post
    Cool the way you link this with some gay bashers, have you considered working for the NY Times?
    Cool the way you derail the argument - have you considered working for FOX news? (Right back at ya! )

    Really Phier, why do you think Palladino is preaching for the anti-homo crowd? He's behind in the polls and looking for a hail mary to get him over the finish line.

    And why is it still considered a perfectly good policy argument for politicians to run on considering we have far more pressing issues these days than worrying over the "Gay Agenda". Does he have no other policy statements to run on? I'd like a little more substance than "gays are dysfunctional and unnatural but I'm not a bigot" in our politician's planks....
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoleCat View Post
    Cool the way you derail the argument - have you considered working for FOX news? (Right back at ya! )

    Really Phier, why do you think Palladino is preaching for the anti-homo crowd? He's behind in the polls and looking for a hail mary to get him over the finish line.

    And why is it still considered a perfectly good policy argument for politicians to run on considering we have far more pressing issues these days than worrying over the "Gay Agenda". Does he have no other policy statements to run on? I'd like a little more substance than "gays are dysfunctional and unnatural but I'm not a bigot" in our politician's planks....
    Could really care less about his platform, I don't know it nor do I care as I'm not voting there, just pointing out the link between the two was nicely propaganda like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoleCat View Post
    Really Phier, why do you think Palladino is preaching for the anti-homo crowd? He's behind in the polls and looking for a hail mary to get him over the finish line.
    so this guy is a politician whoring himself for votes? shocking, this must be the first time something like that happened...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gromovnik View Post
    so this guy is a politician whoring himself for votes? shocking, this must be the first time something like that happened...
    yeah like geert and co

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