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    In my Spartan campaign I can train only militia level units in the city of Thebes (huge city with all military and economic buildings). But in the rest of my cities: Sparta, Olympia, Korinthos, Athens, and Thermos I can train all Spartan units (Spartan Hoplites, Heavy Phalanx, heavy cavalry, etc).

    Are Spartan advanced units only available in certain cities?
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    Did you destroy the enemys barracks and make your own?

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    did you make metals weapon importing? And army rations supply? also only some important regions can train the best units i.e. Sparta, Athenai

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    Quote Originally Posted by Espadas:Benson View Post
    did you make metals weapon importing? And army rations supply? also only some important regions can train the best units i.e. Sparta, Athenai
    I checked this. Also the comment above about destroying the previous barracks. Looks like Thebes does not have access to all the buildings needed: I cant seem to get Thebes to get the Metal Imports. I destroyed all buildings possible in Thebes then built them all back carefully with process_cq and could not get those buildings to appear.
    Last edited by Meethos; October 10, 2010 at 07:26 PM.
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    you need atleast 12000 people in the city, or atleast the govornor building for that population for it to work, i believe, please go check it out

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    Quote Originally Posted by Espadas:Benson View Post
    you need atleast 12000 people in the city, or atleast the govornor building for that population for it to work, i believe, please go check it out

    "In my Spartan campaign I can train only militia level units in the city of Thebes (huge city with all military and economic buildings). But in the rest of my cities: Sparta, Olympia, Korinthos, Athens, and Thermos I can train all Spartan units (Spartan Hoplites, Heavy Phalanx, heavy cavalry, etc)."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Striker View Post
    "In my Spartan campaign I can train only militia level units in the city of Thebes (huge city with all military and economic buildings). But in the rest of my cities: Sparta, Olympia, Korinthos, Athens, and Thermos I can train all Spartan units (Spartan Hoplites, Heavy Phalanx, heavy cavalry, etc)."
    Lol im so stupid. +rep for pointing out my stupidity in a nice and funny way =)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Espadas:Benson View Post
    Lol im so stupid. +rep for pointing out my stupidity in a nice and funny way =)
    Your not stupid just human If we were not human then what would we be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AotxLoGiX View Post
    Your not stupid just human If we were not human then what would we be?
    SPARTANS! According to the movie 300, there superhumans, while killing thousands of elite persain guards, who had conquered the entire civilized world... were destroyed by a bunch of silly little archers. Some superhumans ehh? Rather be a human than a spartan thats for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Espadas:Benson View Post
    Lol im so stupid. +rep for pointing out my stupidity in a nice and funny way =)
    Thx, and I did that once as well, i know the feeling

    SPARTANS! According to the movie 300, there superhumans, while killing thousands of elite persain guards, who had conquered the entire civilized world... were destroyed by a bunch of silly little archers. Some superhumans ehh? Rather be a human than a spartan thats for sure
    +rep !
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    I've had this problem with Thebes, Argos, Olympia, and Cannae (all at different times, I should add) in the Sparta campaign. Have you checked to see if there's already a weapons or precious metals import building there built by another faction? If so, then try destroying it. I took Cannae (which was already a huge city when I did) and couldn't recruit anything heavier than Ekdromoi (not counting the Spartan Marines, which are tied to the port instead of barracks), noticed there was already a Roman weapons metal import building there. I decided on a whim to destroy it, build my own, then was given access to the needed buildings to build higher level barracks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spartan198 View Post
    I've had this problem with Thebes, Argos, Olympia, and Cannae (all at different times, I should add) in the Sparta campaign. Have you checked to see if there's already a weapons or precious metals import building there built by another faction? If so, then try destroying it. I took Cannae (which was already a huge city when I did) and couldn't recruit anything heavier than Ekdromoi (not counting the Spartan Marines, which are tied to the port instead of barracks), noticed there was already a Roman weapons metal import building there. I decided on a whim to destroy it, build my own, then was given access to the needed buildings to build higher level barracks.
    I tried destroying every building possible in Thebes and rebuilding with process_cq to no avail. Perhaps it is connected to one the buildings not destroyable once built? I could have accidentally built the wrong permanent building by mistake if so. But I doubt this is the case unless anyone knows better.

    Olympia and Argos have given me no trouble. At this point only Thebes has given me problems. I guess if they give problems at different times I must have drawn Thebes out of the hat this time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meethos View Post
    I tried destroying every building possible in Thebes and rebuilding with process_cq to no avail. Perhaps it is connected to one the buildings not destroyable once built? I could have accidentally built the wrong permanent building by mistake if so. But I doubt this is the case unless anyone knows better.

    Olympia and Argos have given me no trouble. At this point only Thebes has given me problems. I guess if they give problems at different times I must have drawn Thebes out of the hat this time.
    I found the same with Thebes. I looked in the building browser (for my Pergamon campaign) and it appeared from the 'building broswer' as if the Greeks had built a 'precious metal import' building but I could not find it in the list of constructed buildings (even after demolishing a number of them).

    There have been some problems with resources not being set up properly which will be fixed in the patch.

    The surrounding settlements do have the ability to either have access to iron or can build the 'weapons metal import' and I use those to recruit units form and simply allow Thebes to be an 'economic' settlement.

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    Don't know if this would be the proper thread, but i'll give it a go anyway. Does anyone know in which cities the best spartan barracks are available? This would help me strategically. With this information i would know which cities i should try to conquer in order to expand my empire. It doesn't make any sence that i have to walk my spartan promachoi for 2 turns and then retrain then for another turn and then walk them back to the remaining army.

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    Quote Originally Posted by warsawabruce View Post
    Don't know if this would be the proper thread, but i'll give it a go anyway. Does anyone know in which cities the best spartan barracks are available? This would help me strategically. With this information i would know which cities i should try to conquer in order to expand my empire. It doesn't make any sence that i have to walk my spartan promachoi for 2 turns and then retrain then for another turn and then walk them back to the remaining army.
    War, your going to like the updates once they are done. So far we have Athens, Corinth and i use as best Spartan barracks. Also once you take Pergs Capitol that is another. But you must have the weapons card, or resource in that area. Also be able to build the highest level for the Spartan promachoi & Spartan hoplite.
    We are currently back testing after some errors that stopped our testing. But once these things are finished out we will deliver the new updates. On the update you have i think you can only build the highest level in Sparta. But the Mora's in the next update will be available to Greek locations which can support it. On training i try to avoid it. The reason is it costs income. Sometimes i do train my leaders. The old update you have also has to many cities to take. On the next update these are less. But we do make it hard on Spartans to get started. And it's very important to use your income wise. Also to know when to attack, and when to hold off. Hope this helps!

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    It's been a while, on that update you guys have. Did these barracks in other countries include the Spartans hoplite & Spartan promachoi? Because i was under the impression they were only for lower Greece. Which included Athens, Corinth, and Argos, Olympia, and Thebes. But i been wrong before. I wanted to keep them in Greece the elite units. Just as the idea of certain roman units could be found.

    Roma Surrectum Greek/Spartan Researcher/Tester.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swhunter View Post
    It's been a while, on that update you guys have. Did these barracks in other countries include the Spartans hoplite & Spartan promachoi? Because i was under the impression they were only for lower Greece. Which included Athens, Corinth, and Argos, Olympia, and Thebes. But i been wrong before. I wanted to keep them in Greece the elite units. Just as the idea of certain roman units could be found.
    Yes, several spartan elite units are confined to greece, which i find a pain when trying to retrain my armies

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimbold View Post
    Yes, several spartan elite units are confined to Greece, which i find a pain when trying to retrain my armies
    Ok thanks, As i continue to test I will see if it has changed much.
    But the whole idea was to have certain cities to produce those elite units for that faction.

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    In the spartan preview to RS2 you stated that you (as a player) should try to expand the empire beyond the city Sparta
    but it is very hard when you have to walk some units so long in order to retrain them. When you fight the romans or are trying to defend yourself
    against the romans you need your best units and that it nearly impossible when you are restricted. You also need your best units against other factions
    and beeing imperialistic with sparta under the current circumstances is a big challenge.
    To sum up: I think the best barracks should be available in more cities
    Last edited by warsawabruce; August 31, 2011 at 05:28 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by warsawabruce View Post
    In the spartan preview to RS2 you stated that you (as a player) should try to be expand the empire beyond the city Sparta
    but it is very hard when you have to walk some units so long in order to retrain them. When you fight the romans or are trying to defend yourself
    against the romans you need your best units and that it nearly impossible when you are restricted. You also need your best units against other factions
    and beeing imperialistic with sparta under the current circumstances is a big challenge.
    To sum up: I think the best barracks should be available in more cities
    The best barracks are available ,its just the units that arent , like the that last elite hoplite that comes with the last barracks (promachoi isnt it).

    But ye some units have regionalisms, like the skirikitai (spelling), those hoplites that have yellow shields. Thats why i go for armies with units which can be recruited in every region/barracks, which translates into spartan phalanxes, thorakitai and for hoplites i use the marines.

    Its a shame sometimes, because one army cant advance further due to elite units which have been damaged alot and need to be retrain in certain regions.

    Edit: But it is understandable. I mean it wouldnt make any sense to recruit the best spartan hoplites from all over the place, since such training was restricted to the city.
    Last edited by Grimbold; August 31, 2011 at 02:24 PM.

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