Scottish units?

[dmcraanen]

Hey,

Have any scottish units been made yet? If so, can we have a tiny bit of a peek?

For the rest: yada yada yada this mod is awesome and it ll be more brilliant and the map rocks but we all know this

[Hax]

Have any scottish units been made yet?

No.

If so, can we have a tiny bit of a peek?

Sure, here they are:



There's also a wallpaper available for download.

[dmcraanen]

Sick! They can camouflage themselves in a snowstorm?!

Thanks mon ^^ it ll get a priviledged spot on my wall!

[sumskilz]

Have any scottish units been made yet? If so, can we have a tiny bit of a peek?

I guess you got your answer, but I'd like to say that if anyone has a scanned copy of Scottish Arms and Armour by Fergus Cannan, it would be really cool if you could PM it to me.

[Hax]

They can camouflage themselves in a snowstorm?!

Yeah, that's a new feature we modded in. Also goes for the Tibetan Yeti unit the Mongols get.

[Copperknickers II]

I guess you got your answer, but I'd like to say that if anyone has a scanned copy of Scottish Arms and Armour by Fergus Cannan, it would be really cool if you could PM it to me.

Could have told me that mate, i was about to buy it the other day in Kelvingrove museum (largest collection of medieval European weapons manuals in the world) but i figured you'd already have it lol.

Scottish units are all researched btw, haven't been started yet as Sum says. I can promise on his behalf though: there will be no ridiculous Braveheart style units, although hopefully lots of claidheamh dà làimh (two handed swords).

[dmcraanen]

Also goes for the Tibetan Yeti unit the Mongols get.

Do want!

Perhaps you could also make Russian units that get wasted on Vodka and then kill anything hostile in a drunken rage with a broken Vodka bottle?

[Hax]

Perhaps you could also make Russian units that get wasted on Vodka and then kill anything hostile in a drunken rage with a broken Vodka bottle?

No, it's a Finnish regional unit. You get them after building at least 15 sauna's in your empire.

[dmcraanen]

Ah very good...do they also have mounted versions of that?

Maybe if you build a vodka brewery they allow you to ride on kegs with wheels?

[Hax]

They would, but they ate all their horses. So..no, actually.

[dmcraanen]

Scottish units are all researched btw, haven't been started yet as Sum says. I can promise on his behalf though: there will be no ridiculous Braveheart style units, although hopefully lots of claidheamh dà làimh (two handed swords).

Awesome...those blue-painted faces annoyed the hell out of me in vanilla....Also, if for the sake of Scotland kilts are included (I really like them, be not mistaken) Then please use them as units that appear around 1500 or later, and only in the Highland settlements, and then again only the Great Kilt which is as you probably know just a load of tartan wrapped around you....The kilt is something of the 16th century. Please do include a lot of Tartans though...! (Tartan cloaks or sashes perhaps?). From what I have read it seems that they really liked shiny bright colours! And as for the 2h swords, hell yeah! If you intend to use Claymores, be aware that those were only used from 1450 or so on.

Anyhoos, your research and knowledge may well be better than mine, but still wanted to bring it accross

edit: If you need any more research or perhaps even some designs, Ive got a university library to use. Feel free to ask for my assistance, even though it might be limited.

[Copperknickers II]

Awesome...those blue-painted faces annoyed the hell out of me in vanilla....Also, if for the sake of Scotland kilts are included (I really like them, be not mistaken) Then please use them as units that appear around 1500 or later, and only in the Highland settlements, and then again only the Great Kilt which is as you probably know just a load of tartan wrapped around you....The kilt is something of the 16th century. Please do include a lot of Tartans though...! (Tartan cloaks or sashes perhaps?). From what I have read it seems that they really liked shiny bright colours! And as for the 2h swords, hell yeah! If you intend to use Claymores, be aware that those were only used from 1450 or so on.

Anyhoos, your research and knowledge may well be better than mine, but still wanted to bring it accross

edit: If you need any more research or perhaps even some designs, Ive got a university library to use. Feel free to ask for my assistance, even though it might be limited.

The mod only goes up to 1453, so no rennaissance era stuff unfortunately.

[MonkeyLancer]

Oops, didn't notice this thread earlier, but I thought that claymores were near enough to being a renaissance weapon. I'm hoping to see people wearing leines armed with sparth axes.

[Copperknickers II]

Oops, didn't notice this thread earlier, but I thought that claymores were near enough to being a renaissance weapon.

Basket hilted broadswords, yes, but William Wallace's sword was a two-handed one.

[brennas]

Basket hilted broadswords, yes, but William Wallace's sword was a two-handed one.

As Mel Gibson demonstrated

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[Copperknickers II]

Indeed. I saw William Wallace's sword the other day, in Stirling.

"Quamdiu centum ex nobis viui remanserint, nuncquam Anglorum dominio aliquatenus volumus subiugari. Non enim propter gloriam, diuicias aut honores pugnamus set propter libertatem, solummodo quam nemo bonus nisi simul cum vita amittit."

"As long as a hundred of us remain alive, never will we submit under any circumstances to English rule. It is not for glory, riches nor honour that we fight, but for freedom, for that alone, which no honest man gives up except with life itself."

It's a shame really, Braveheart makes Scotland look so illiterate, if would have been far more impressive if William Wallace had run into battle shouting that rather than just 'Freeeedoooommmm!!!!'.

[dmcraanen]

Some units in the post above look a little too late-era....They look cool but just too late. The Celtic Nobles in London look good though. They dont look like they are from 1562, even though their helmets do.

Also, I did not say they did not use 2h swords, I specifically mentioned Claymores. Claymores are a little shorter than a 2h sword yet are used in the same manner.

edit: perhaps the late-era units would fit JUST in the timeframe because its not exactly clear when kilts were first worn....perhaps they were not clearly mentioned but were used in 1400 and obviously only by highland troops?

[MonkeyLancer]

I'm pretty sure that "Celtic Noble" is from an osprey book which is labeled as being a gallowglass waiting for a noble. Not that I think such a noble would be dressed terribly differently then that.


Some neat articles on Scottish/Irish kilts/leines etc... I wanted to write more but I gotta jet maybe upon my return
https://www.reconstructinghistory.co...=&g=&a=134&w=2

https://www.reconstructinghistory.co...=&g=&a=190&w=2

[RC-1136]

Nice pictures, especially the one of Black Douglas!
But why do the "Medieval Scotish swordmen" carry their swords on their back? This does not work at all! How would you draw such a weapon?

[sumskilz]

But why do the "Medieval Scotish swordmen" carry their swords on their back? This does not work at all! How would you draw such a weapon?

Be in a Hollywood movie.