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    Default Problem with a few units...

    Some of the units don't seem to want to line up properly, namely some of the hoplite units such as Spartans. What happens is the two officers will march to where they are supposed to, but then the rest of the unit will line up a couple of metres back and then look of to the right into the gorgeous sunset.

    I've tried fixing it by changing their formations in the EDU, removing the officers, taking the Promachoi (who can form up nicely) stats and pasting them under the Spartan's but nothing worked. I don't really have the modding knowledge to know where to look next. Any ideas?

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    Default Re: Problem with a few units...

    I had same problem with Carthaginian hoplites ( early lybian spearmen namely) their formation is breaken, and they cant form it for some reason

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    As far as I know many spear units have this bug, when forming a battle line you have to draw out the lines further forward than where you actually want them, to allow for the fact they will stop short of the rest of your battle line.

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    i'm having the same problem...Lost my best experienced Mercenary Elite Phalangites...
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    I never saw it to happen to phalangites

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    Some units tend not to form perfect lines and stand all in one frontal line, it's not a bug it is just the way they march and how they position themselves on the battlefield facing the enemy.
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    Unfortunately I don't think that is this It happens every time you reform so eventually your front line will be at the back of your army lol.

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    your officer and standard are ballsy!

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    Two of them want to be part of the elite promachoi gang, too haha.

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    This has been happening to me too. I have difficulty repositioning my spearmen on the flanks of my phalangites in the heat of battle... >.>

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    Quote Originally Posted by universalmind View Post
    Some of the units don't seem to want to line up properly, namely some of the hoplite units such as Spartans. What happens is the two officers will march to where they are supposed to, but then the rest of the unit will line up a couple of metres back and then look of to the right into the gorgeous sunset.

    I've tried fixing it by changing their formations in the EDU, removing the officers, taking the Promachoi (who can form up nicely) stats and pasting them under the Spartan's but nothing worked. I don't really have the modding knowledge to know where to look next. Any ideas?
    Any pictures? I'm going to bring this up in the dev forum...

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    Default Re: Problem with a few units...

    I was trying to find a save with a battle I could show but no joy but I get this with Pergamon. Has happened with Pergamon and Taxeis hoplites and I think the Doryphuroi(?) too. I usually group my hoplites into 1 or two lines and march them forwards as a group and this happens even before any engagement of the lines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarcusTullius View Post
    Any pictures? I'm going to bring this up in the dev forum...
    Sure thing. Here you go!
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    Straight after starting the battle

    Advancing

    Almost there

    Main soldiers reach the back of where they should line up and stop

    Final formation

    Try to advance further and it gets worse

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    I believe this is because the speed of officers is greater than that of soldiers, speed of the animations.

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    Default Re: Problem with a few units...

    Quote Originally Posted by MarcusTullius View Post
    Any pictures? I'm going to bring this up in the dev forum...
    I observed the problem of the not uplining hoplites too when I loaded a save from somebody else talking about the same issue a while ago....
    Its not a problem at the beginning but once the battle starts and the unit is orderd to move ....when they reach the ordered position they are not lining up properly....a few soldiers are standing a few feet in front of the line...the line looks a bit broken then...as if they where drunk

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    Default Re: Problem with a few units...

    Sometime you can't expect your soldiers to do exactly what u want them to do. Maybe some of them are drunk.



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    Quote Originally Posted by naq View Post
    Sometime you can't expect your soldiers to do exactly what u want them to do. Maybe some of them are drunk.
    Sometimes would be ok for me. Always is another thing...

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    Just bumping up this thread once more, only to bring it to some dev's attention maybe?

    Happens with alex and bi.exe both...

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    lol!

    I had the exact same problem!

    What did i do?

    I copied the descr formations.txt file from my RTR directory and problem solved!

    Also, the formations are soooooooo baddass! The Roman Manipular Formation, The Greek-Theban Phalanx Formation and the Barbarian Onslaught Formations prove to bee unstoppable with the right units!

    Mind you, you would have to download RTR...

    I don't know if that's cheating, but there isn't a single decent formation in the original RSII. Only the AI gets them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lolzillaXD!!! View Post
    lol!

    I had the exact same problem!

    What did i do?

    I copied the descr formations.txt file from my RTR directory and problem solved!

    Also, the formations are soooooooo baddass! The Roman Manipular Formation, The Greek-Theban Phalanx Formation and the Barbarian Onslaught Formations prove to bee unstoppable with the right units!

    Mind you, you would have to download RTR...

    I don't know if that's cheating, but there isn't a single decent formation in the original RSII. Only the AI gets them.
    Would it be frowned upon to upload just the formations file?

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