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    well, just a question for ur thoughts. being really hard pressed on 3 fronts in my roman campaign i cant think of any other solution then letting border regions rebel to buy myself time this way. now im askin myself if that isnt somehow like cheating. well, i will do it anyway i guess, since i cant think of another way right now and dont want to start over. but it still leaves a bad taste in my mouth (thanks to the makers for giving me such an incredible time though ). what are your opinions?

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    Default Re: are intentional rebellions cheating?

    Creating bufferstates is a common practice in human history, so imho it's not cheating. Too bad it has to be this way, since the diplomacy in RTW doesn't give you very good tools to accomplish this. Downside is you're at war with your bufferstate.

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    Default Re: are intentional rebellions cheating?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wilhelm von Nassau View Post
    Creating bufferstates is a common practice in human history, so imho it's not cheating. Too bad it has to be this way, since the diplomacy in RTW doesn't give you very good tools to accomplish this. Downside is you're at war with your bufferstate.
    Plus the fact that you can`t trade with what is essentially your neighbor.

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    Default Re: are intentional rebellions cheating?

    I would see intentional rebellions more as a measurement than cheating.

    It's further more a commonly used measurement and i don't think anybody considers
    it to be cheating.

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    Default Re: are intentional rebellions cheating?

    If it makes you feel better, just pull your troops out and move them to an endangered spot - just like you would in RL. And then go tell yourself that it was necessary to give up some settlements in order to keep the endangered ones.

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    Default Re: are intentional rebellions cheating?

    Which comes to mind: The Romans did it when leaving Britannia to fend for itself during the Anglo-Saxon invasions.

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    Default Re: are intentional rebellions cheating?

    Be careful about letting your settlements turning rebel - the Roman Rebel faction has a tendency to become a juggernaut.

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    Default Re: are intentional rebellions cheating?

    Very true, It can be seen throughout history of kingdoms and empires sacrificing client states and regions to save more strategic or economically important regions.

    Its just too bad that as romans they rebel to the Roman rebels instead of a Free people state everytime.

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    Default Re: are intentional rebellions cheating?

    Force diplomacy to free peoples does it fine
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    Default Re: are intentional rebellions cheating?

    Roman rebels can expand just like other factions and can be quite aggressive as I saw in another post, be careful. Playing my roman campaign I dont give a inch anywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mont View Post
    Roman rebels can expand just like other factions and can be quite aggressive as I saw in another post, be careful. Playing my roman campaign I dont give a inch anywhere.
    I didnt say give them to Roman Rebels. Give them to rebels if your NOT playing Rome. If you are , best to give them to a rump state that just got it ___ handed to them.
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    Default Re: are intentional rebellions cheating?

    thx for ur opinions and tips, my mind is a bit easier now.

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    Default Re: are intentional rebellions cheating?

    Quote Originally Posted by SMcS View Post
    well, just a question for ur thoughts. being really hard pressed on 3 fronts in my roman campaign i cant think of any other solution then letting border regions rebel to buy myself time this way. now im askin myself if that isnt somehow like cheating. well, i will do it anyway i guess, since i cant think of another way right now and dont want to start over. but it still leaves a bad taste in my mouth (thanks to the makers for giving me such an incredible time though ). what are your opinions?
    you could either let them rebel or give it to the rebels which can be your allies for some reason in this
    game , thats what i did after took southern Greece and gave Thebes to the rebels,
    nice buffer state against the Macedonians for now atleast

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    Default Re: are intentional rebellions cheating?

    i had a problem with Pharsalus, the city rebelled, in the mean time i had hard time with macedon and i decided to leave it to the roman rebels for some time (like a buffer), also i thought the rebels will build roman buildings, but what i saw?! in 3-4 turns there were 5 full roman rebel stacks, which invaded my cities in Greece. NEVER leave roman rebel city around your territories!

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    Default Re: are intentional rebellions cheating?

    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...ight=Rebellion

    Read the very first post.





    Quote Originally Posted by terzer View Post
    i had a problem with Pharsalus, the city rebelled, in the mean time i had hard time with macedon and i decided to leave it to the roman rebels for some time (like a buffer), also i thought the rebels will build roman buildings, but what i saw?! in 3-4 turns there were 5 full roman rebel stacks, which invaded my cities in Greece. NEVER leave roman rebel city around your territories!


    I second that, NEVER let the roman rebels with ANY city at all, especially high-level cities like Sirakousai, Carthago, Carthago Nova, Pella, etc....

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