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    Default Factions whats the limit ?

    So why does this mod have Denmark and Norway in 1110 AD and have Principality of Moscow and Vladamir Principality/Kiev ?

    I think that this mod is missing Bohemia to Bulgaria hell Croatia Georgia Armenia well my point is that in 1110 AD when this game mod starts is this mod realistic in means of history or is it a sandbox game with a medieval flavor ?

    I think its more of a fanboyism with Ireland is cool Norway has pretty colors instead of power of the faction of that period.
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    Default Re: Factions whats the limit ?

    31 factions is the limit but the SS team have used up all the unit slots. Everyone has different opinions about which factions should/should not be included and there is no way to accommodate for everyone. This has been raised many times before, so use the search function.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr1Jack View Post
    So why does this mod have Denmark and Norway in 1110 AD and have Principality of Moscow and Vladamir Principality/Kiev ?

    I think that this mod is missing Bohemia to Bulgaria hell Croatia Georgia Armenia well my point is that in 1110 AD when this game mod starts is this mod realistic in means of history or is it a sandbox game with a medieval flavor ?

    I think its more of a fanboyism with Ireland is cool Norway has pretty colors instead of power of the faction of that period.
    I agree with you about Norway and Ireland... Ireland is gone with 6.3 and Georgia is being worked on to add right now.

    There are also various submods working on other factions but the thing is adding new faction is alot of work especially to integrate it with other popular submods. I'd prefer take out a couple factions and add in 3 new ones- Abassids, Burgundy, Bulgaria but because of the amount of work I accept some questionable factions to get to use the other submods I like.

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    Default Re: Factions whats the limit ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ichon View Post
    I agree with you about Norway and Ireland... Ireland is gone with 6.3 and Georgia is being worked on to add right now.

    There are also various submods working on other factions but the thing is adding new faction is alot of work especially to integrate it with other popular submods. I'd prefer take out a couple factions and add in 3 new ones- Abassids, Burgundy, Bulgaria but because of the amount of work I accept some questionable factions to get to use the other submods I like.
    Yes i agree its alot of work but there are already factions done which you can borrow and upgrade with this mod.

    Abassids, Burgundy, Bulgaria yes ! I like the list Crusader Kings has a good historical list of factions that had Power Prestige and its original armies.

    I"m no modder if i was a i inter grade all the player made factions into this mod so players can decide what factions they want ingame and what now that be fantastic !

    Check this map out: http://www.euratlas.net/history/euro...entity_35.html

    Now in that by power and prestige i would decide what factions should be added.

    I wonder why Duchy of Bohemia is not there while you have other Duchies that had less power and prestige look i can declare Independence with Duchy of Bohemia in 1068 in Crusader Kings which i use as a history simulation entertainment.
    Last edited by Mr1Jack; October 06, 2010 at 01:57 AM.
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    Default Re: Factions whats the limit ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr1Jack View Post
    Yes i agree its alot of work but there are already factions done which you can borrow and upgrade with this mod.
    Maybe. Just because someone has released a faction in his mod doesn't mean it can be integrated into SS this easily. We are at the unit limit, so any new faction would be "cloned" as in have units from other factions with no individuality.
    I"m no modder if i was a i inter grade all the player made factions into this mod so players can decide what factions they want ingame and what now that be fantastic !
    M2TW is no construction kit. To make that selectable you would need a unit database for every possible combination, not to mention the files that would needed to be moved around and managed besides that. Campaign maps for every possibility. This and that for every possibility. You are not modder but you have to understand that I find it more likely that someone sits down and adds bowstring animation to all vanilla units (which is a huge task in itself) then to go through the huger task of making everything selectable. Nevermind that this will most likely make any balancing and bug fixing impossible.

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    Okay makes sense to me now.
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    Default Re: Norway/Denmark

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr1Jack View Post
    So why does this mod have Denmark and Norway in 1110 AD and have Principality of Moscow and Vladamir Principality/Kiev ?

    I think that this mod is missing Bohemia to Bulgaria hell Croatia Georgia Armenia well my point is that in 1110 AD when this game mod starts is this mod realistic in means of history or is it a sandbox game with a medieval flavor ?

    I think its more of a fanboyism with Ireland is cool Norway has pretty colors instead of power of the faction of that period.

    You do know that few years behind the start date of this game, Norway launched a full scale invation of England?
    Norway was a significant power in the north untill about 1300, Norwegian king had denmark as a dependacy at one point and we launched a sucsessfull crusade, and the Norwegian king was the first european king to personaly do so. we were awarded with a bit of the cross of jesus from the patriarch of jerusalem, for our efforts, and thats is dispayed in a cathedral in norway today. Also, Norway was allied to france to supply 50 000 troops and 300 ships in case of a war, and we invaded scotland in Kingdoms exspantion remember? .

    so yeah, we got power.

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