When will you make the enemy be your vassal?

[Runner]

when will you make the enemy be your vassal?

do the vassal really give money to you?

will they betray you usually?

eg. if i am playing France, should i make England be my vassal, or just kill them all?

[bɑne]

They will betray you eventually, depending on their ability to rebuilt their military and the campaign AI used.

[Ishan]

Half of the income vassals make in a single turn goes to the you which is good if you are not trying to expand in that direction or currently looking forward to manage those settlements.

[rockman4417]

The English? At least kick them out of the British Isles, and then vassalize them. Keep the isles for yourself.

[Sanderlicious]

I keep vassals when I don't want to completely destroy an enemy.
In my Byzantine campaign, I let the Crusader States have Tortosa as long as they are my vassal. I don't predict an uprising as they currently adore me for saving them from the Fatimids and any rebellion by them would be instantaneously crushed.

[Runner]

will your vassal attack the same enemy of you?
can we use our vassal to attack our same target faction?
may you share your experience?

[Amaranth]

When playing as England, I always make Scotland my vassal. I take Edinburgh, kick Wallace's butt, leave Inverness and Aberdeen to Scots, and offer them vassal option. I don't like the idea of "destorying" a faction, I even try to prevent AI factions destory eachother, if I can. Anyway if you keep them happy, and control their population, they won't betray you. But don't let them have more than 3 settlements, in fact that's even too much, make it 2. About betrayal..

There's a possibility but I never experienced myself. Once vassals, Scotland seem to greatly loyal. Same goes for Ireland.
In this current campaign I'm playing, their reputation is Immaculate and it's the highest rep in the whole campaign now. And Ireland, which I have a marriage alliance at the start of the campaign, still has two settlement and never break alliance with me since.

So I don't think the loyalty differ in each faction, so I'm guessing same would apply England in your campaign as well.

[Ishan]

These are all very basics questions & are not SS related.

And read this M2TW Guide it will fill out your Basic doubts about vassals.(Chapter 1 is about vassals)

[Runner]

thanks a lot!

[Ishan]

Your Welcome.

[Feldspar]

1 caveat though.

because SS gives monetary bonuses to factions with minimal properties (to try to help them build an army as a last stand type thing) gaining a vassalage while they only have 1 maybe 2 territories can cause the massive money "bug".

you get half of the monetary bonuses that 1 or 2 provinced vassal gets, so you can see your income jump from 7-10 k/turn to up to 40+ thousand.

if you are going to make a country a vassal you may decide it better to gift them a territory or two (like their homelands or w/e) to keep the influx of money a little more reasonable, and to make the chances of the them "rebelling" a little more, and a little more entertaining.

[Tears of Destiny]

Bah, we late era romans vassal nothing...

In all seriousness, I have vassaled only once, and that was back in Vanilla (Or retrofit mod)... and it was by accident, I was about to kill Milan and offered vassalage as a joke, and they took it... I was confounded...