The AI charged horse artillery into my lines??????

The AI charged horse artillery into my lines. It ran the whole length across being shot by hundreds of musket balls and didn't lose a single guy? The AI seemed to abuse this by doing that while its infantry advanced into position.

Whats this all about?

An ignorant ai and you might want to charge your cavalry at them and eventually they will be able to route and/or kill the unit.

limbered artillery is almost invulnerable to muskets. Its just the way the game is designed, my suggestion just tell your infantry to melee it and problem is solved.

Originally Posted by DunkFunk

limbered artillery is almost invulnerable to muskets. Its just the way the game is designed, my suggestion just tell your infantry to melee it and problem is solved.

Correction, they are invulnerable. I had 4 rifles shooting at limbered artillary, not 1 man died :/

Yarkis, the TROM2 modder, gave a rundown of the numbers here.
Sounds like you need to inflict 300 damage to kill a horse train, that would be 400 hits with muskets (at 0.75 damage).
DunkFunk is right, melee is quite fast, there might even be a bonus.

yes i hate that! they cant die by musket bullets! (

Originally Posted by RangerGxi

The AI charged horse artillery into my lines. It ran the whole length across being shot by hundreds of musket balls and didn't lose a single guy? The AI seemed to abuse this by doing that while its infantry advanced into position.

Whats this all about?

RangerGxi meet the AI

They CAN die if you shoot at them long enough. I once saw a single artillery train being destroyed by musket balls.

Perhaps the AI is getting smarter. It realised your guys would shoot at it without effect while its infantry snuck up. It must be a learning AI, and will morph into Skynet soon. Or it was just a random thing where the program looked at the damage possible and pushed the safest unit.

I believe CA deliberatly gave limbered artillery units outragous hit points to balance the game a bit, I remember in Empire you could wipe out all the AI artillery at the start if you concentrated your fire on them. This adds not only balance but helps keep it a little more historically accurate, counter artillery fire was not particuarly common during this period as it was often more efficient to fire at massed targets such as infantry.

long years into an artillery unit and you get such reflexes .These men can dodge bullets because they are veterans
But seriously now.They can die.I once killed 10 soldiers from them by having 3 units firing at them at close range.Although they took quite many bullets .They must be some napoleonic mutant experiment

I have to admit that I have taken advantage of this "feature" against the AI. I find that I can use horse artillery to move quickly to their side of the battlefield and line artillery up firing down their line. They shoot at it on the way across, but it usually makes it through. Then for some reason they seem to largely ignore it if I target it to fire in the MIDDLE of their long line, where bouncing shots just keep taking guys out. I also keep a cav unit nearby for countercharges and such. This would get me killed in MP, but against the AI it works rather well.

Lol. And this was supposed to be better AI than ETW?

Well guys, tell me something: is there any in-depth, detailed comparison of ETW 1.6 versus latest NTW AI? I'm simply curious. Crap things like this one obviously get much publicity, but I'm interested in the bigger picture.

Originally Posted by Achilla

Lol. And this was supposed to be better AI than ETW?

Well guys, tell me something: is there any in-depth, detailed comparison of ETW 1.6 versus latest NTW AI? I'm simply curious. Crap things like this one obviously get much publicity, but I'm interested in the bigger picture.

Overall (ignoring "features" like this), I think NTW has better battle AI. It does a better job of forming a continuous line that doesn't bunch up. There will always be AI holes to exploit, but it's less obvious in NTW. Even so, I still play BOTH games, so I just have to remember which one I am in to play the proper AI exploits.

Note: They charged at me, Then ran across the length of the line. It has been done several times.




_____________________________ Enemy line
-----------Advancing------------

HA----------------------------> Run across.

_____________________________Line Infantry

Originally Posted by RangerGxi

Note: They charged at me, Then ran across the length of the line. It has been done several times.




_____________________________ Enemy line
-----------Advancing------------

HA----------------------------> Run across.

_____________________________Line Infantry

Hilarious. Maybe they wanted to make a postcard?

Well, can't blame them for thinking outside the box.

CA please add this to your list of fixes for next patch :-)

Originally Posted by micheljq

CA please add this to your list of fixes for next patch :-)

The next patch will be for Shogun2...

I had something similar, but I was deploying units way forward. Maybe the computer chose the same position to deploy in.