What faction should be used to restore Alexander's Empire ?

[Megas Ycarus]

As the title says, im going to start a new canpaign to restore the Alexander's Empire, but i don't know what faction should i use .

[RedGuard]

Arche Seleukeia are the most like in my opinion to the vision Alexander had for his empire. They use Greek Heavy Infantry, Eastern Calvary and mix both greek and persian cultures together.

[shadowdrummer46]

Alexander was the son of King Phillip II of Macedonia. He Started his campaign rather quickly after his father's assassination when he ascended to the throne.

To me anytime I want to try to become "The Next Alexander", which is quite often I try, its a no brainier to use Macedonia, especially for historical accuracy.

Not to mention the troop selections are basically the same as when he made his historic campaign; in the sense that you start with an army closest to what he would have started with. Comprised with a core of Macedonian phalanges and auxiliaries, than recruiting the best from his powerful conquered states.

Also Macedon is not a superpower as the Seleucid's empire(which boriak pointed out), which is much more in line with the kingdom Alexander inherited. Not to mention you have to deal with how to handle your conquered provinces as you continue your campaign.

Let me know how this works out, like I said this is one of my favorite things to do in RTW as well.

Sorry for using the more common english names than the more correct EB names, it was just easier for me. I hope this Helps!

[Boriak]

If you do it with Seleukeia, you are already half done considering territory.

[AspisPhalanx90]

If you do it with Seleukeia, you are already half done considering territory.

100% agree...id do it with Epieros or Makedonia. Id say epieros since Pyyrhos has the next best idea, using the Phalanx with combined troops to supplement its inflexibility, imported elephants, etc. Plus you start small, so it gives you more of a conquest to work on. fighting a war through makedonia, greece, pontos, seluecid empire, ptolemaic even, and eventually over to india. plenty of enemies, plenty of work, plenty of fun

[shadowdrummer46]

Even though Epierros is very similar to Macedon, at the start of the campaign Epierros is preoccupied in Italy with Rome, I think it would make more sense to use Macedon, simply because they're initial war starting the campaign is against their traditional rivals the Greeks. Not to mention i dont believe Alexander had Elephants to start his campaign.

No disrespect intended

[Megas Ycarus]

Yes, i agree with you Shadow Dummer. I want historical accurracy. Now im going to pick my youngest general/family member,that is Sharp/Charismatic/Vigorous, adopt him, make him the faction heir, kill the current faction leader. Then i will start my AAR: "μια ιστορία: The Return of Zeus Son, Mégas Alexandros !".

[AspisPhalanx90]

no disrespect taken at all, i wasnt sure about how historically it was supposed to be. And yes, the bit about rome is true, i have yet to ever see Rome accept a cease fire so i doubt fighting a war against them and the greeks would be what you wanted.

Good luck with the AAR; im hoping to do something with my Ionian League soon

[Megas Ycarus]

no disrespect taken at all, i wasnt sure about how historically it was supposed to be. And yes, the bit about rome is true, i have yet to ever see Rome accept a cease fire so i doubt fighting a war against them and the greeks would be what you wanted.

Good luck with the AAR; im hoping to do something with my Ionian League soon

Sorry but, i never heard of this league .

[AspisPhalanx90]

hehe..it existed in the 7th century bc...was made up of about 12 cities on the Ionian coast, and now its back after i got run out of pelopponesus

[Megas Ycarus]

hehe..it existed in the 7th century bc...was made up of about 12 cities on the Ionian coast, and now its back after i got run out of pelopponesus

Ok, nvm. Shall i create a Yerevan Dinasty, migrate with the Aedui to Ankyra, use a nomadic hord to raid the entire middle-east (i have modded EB to make the Sauromatae "hordeable", for my own purposes, if you want i can send it to you), create a Lusotannan Confederation or create a 300 Spartan army ?

[nlovertoom]

Yes, i agree with you Shadow Dummer. I want historical accurracy. Now im going to pick my youngest general/family member,that is Sharp/Charismatic/Vigorous, adopt him, make him the faction heir, kill the current faction leader. Then i will start my AAR: "μια ιστορία: The Return of Zeus Son, Mégas Alexandros !".

Not to be a smart ass but am I imagining "I want historical accuracy"??? Therefore what I said before is still valid.

[shadowdrummer46]

As far as killing the Faction leader, it isn't necessary unless you really want too. I usually take my most talent youngest family member, set him as faction heir, and get to conquering. Leaving you're leader alive would provide some stability with you're brightest family member off on campaign with the nation producing troops in support.

Plus I doubt if Alexander were to return he would want to assume leadership by his father's assination. but thats just my opinion haha

[Turtle Hammer]

Well, I'd use Makedonia. I've not really done much as them before, just fired up a capmaign to see what they had to offer. As others have said, they're the closest to what Alexander used, and there's also the fact that Alexander's empire was Makedonian, and you're Makedonia. Nobody else has a claim to it, so crush the ursurpers!

[Marku]

i use Macedonia for recreating Alexander empire in most campaigns. i found seleucidto be frustrating because of the AI surrounding it.

[cottontail]

Well, seeing as everyone is arguing for Macedon, I'll argue for something completely different ()


Bactria

Why?

With Bactria, while you will not exactly create Alexander's empire as Alexander did historically, you can do it in reverse, starting from the edges of Iran and conquering to Greece. Bactria sort of gives you the feeling as playing as the desendants of Alexander's elite forces who stayed with him that far, adapting to the situation. Plus you get plenty of levies to support you elite forces, many of them quite good ( the Persian archer spearmen come to mind). It is sort of exciting to be an alexander in reverse, the final reward being the recovery of Alexander's historical homeland.

And of course, one of the main reasons Bactria is a good choice is because it has one of the strongest and unique rosters in the game. Greek Phalanxes, Iranian/ steppe ( and later Indian) archers, cataprachts ( including the uber bodyguard you get later on) and heavy horse archers, Greek heavy infantry, Indian guild warriors ( these guys are beasts), and the super awsome looking Bactrian agema ifantry. It really gives you the feeling of playing Alexander's elite of the elite.

[Delta146]

Well, seeing as everyone is arguing for Macedon, I'll argue for something completely different ()


Bactria

Why?

With Bactria, while you will not exactly create Alexander's empire as Alexander did historically, you can do it in reverse, starting from the edges of Iran and conquering to Greece. Bactria sort of gives you the feeling as playing as the descendants of Alexander's elite forces who stayed with him that far, adapting to the situation. Plus you get plenty of levies to support you elite forces, many of them quite good ( the Persian archer spearmen come to mind). It is sort of exciting to be an Alexander in reverse, the final reward being the recovery of Alexander's historical homeland.

This post outlines my reasons very nicely. I fail to see how that would be a Persian empire, since Baktria is Hellenistic and just as much a candidate as any other Hellenistic faction.

[shadowdrummer46]

I played Bactria in an RTR:ExRM campaign and thoroughly enjoyed them. In RTR, Bactria even ends up owning many cities carrying the name of Alexander. They were the first faction that actually made me take time to understand the tacticts of phalanx warfare, and introduce me to eastern warfare.

So I couldn't agree more that they are worth a play. Although, for the author of the OP its not historically accurate at all. Although I do like the idea of the "Prize" being the home of Alexander.

Again no disrespect intended.

[cottontail]

Again no disrespect intended.

None taken.

And yes, I do know its not exactly a perfect match for Alexander. But something different is always cool

[shadowdrummer46]

Agreed bactria is a very fun faction to play.