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    Default Late Professional Units in Circa 1200 AD?

    Love SS 6.3. Easily the best mod I've played. In fact it's the only one I haven't given up on pretty quickly.

    I'm playing as Aragon and the year is 1213 AD and even before 1200 AD I've been spotting enemy units that are listed as Late Professional. Mostly just odd ones or twos, but I've now encountered Byzantine armies which are made up of nearly all LP units. I've only recently got my first unit that is Early Professional. So I'm wondering if this should be the case or whether it's a bug etc?

    If this has been discussed already then feel free not to bite my head off over it. I have tried searching the forum for an answer.

    Any help is appreciated.

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    Default Re: Late Professional Units in Circa 1200 AD?

    If you are referring to rebel armies, then yes, it is normal.

    There is no way to keep rebels from spawning crazy strong units afaik.

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    Default Re: Late Professional Units in Circa 1200 AD?

    No, I'm talking other factions: France, England and Byzantine Empire that I've noticed.

    When should late professional units start appearing?

    EDIT: Forgive me, I was being a muppet. It's only with the Byzantine Empire that I've seen LP units. Though I did get scared when faced with French Nobel/Chivalric knights
    Last edited by JacobReed; September 29, 2010 at 03:55 PM.

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    Default Re: Late Professional Units in Circa 1200 AD?

    The various unit styles, Feudal, Early Professional, Late Professional and so on doesn't hint on when they might be available, even though it might sound that way. They represent the various way they are recruited.
    For instance, Feudal units are expensive in upkeep, and take a long time to replenish, but are possible to hire in a single turn, representing the fact that they already exist as landholding nobles, and are then called into the Kings service.
    Late professionels replenish quickly and have a fairly low upkeep usually, but often take many turns to hire, representing that they are not already running around the kingdom, but needs to be trained up first.
    The Byzantines for the most part didn't implement the feudal system that most of europe used, but rather used an army of professionel trained troops, much like the europeans used later on. Hence many of their units fit under the "Late Professionel" status.

    I'm sure you could get a more detailed explanation in the RR/RC submod forum, as thats where it got implemented, but that's generally the basics of it. It's various different way to recruit the unit, rather than indication of the age the unit should be available.

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    Default Re: Late Professional Units in Circa 1200 AD?

    Quote Originally Posted by PerXX View Post
    The various unit styles, Feudal, Early Professional, Late Professional and so on doesn't hint on when they might be available, even though it might sound that way. They represent the various way they are recruited.
    For instance, Feudal units are expensive in upkeep, and take a long time to replenish, but are possible to hire in a single turn, representing the fact that they already exist, and are then called into the Kings service.
    Late professionels replenish quickly and have a fairly low upkeep usually, but often take many turns to hire, representing that they are not already running around the kingdom, but needs to be trained up first.
    The Byzantines for the most part didn't implement the feudal system that most of europe used, but rather used an army of professionel trained troops, much like the europeans used later on. Hence many of their units fit under the "Late Professionel" status.

    I'm sure you could get a more detailed explanation in the RR/RC submod forum, as thats where it got implemented, but that's generally the basics of it. It's various different way to recruit the unit, rather than indication of the age the unit should be available.
    Ah ha, thank you for the explanation. Very much appreciated.

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    Default Re: Late Professional Units in Circa 1200 AD?

    Exactly right

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