Roam

[EVO]

I am asking the admins of this site to delete Roam's Thread "important announcement cocerning Heaven and Hell".

Maxi my friend i know you got nothing to do with this but try to prevent ur kids from this bs.


EVO

HELLonEARTH

http://hellonearthrtw.proboards.com/index.cgi

[Sword_01]

yeah what he did was pretty ******* retarded
he shud apologise imo

[|Sith| Max]

I am asking the admins of this site to delete Roam's Thread "important announcement cocerning Heaven and Hell".

Maxi my friend i know you got nothing to do with this but try to prevent ur kids from this bs.


EVO

HELLonEARTH

http://hellonearthrtw.proboards.com/index.cgi

I asked the admins to delete it when i reported it. They did not understand that closing it was insufficient but what do you want me to do about it.

yeah what he did was pretty ******* retarded
he shud apologise imo

now now, we will consider that option when Chibbs gives me a formal apology for the stuff he says to my face on TS3.

[EVO]

Maybe Chibbs was out of line but there is a big difference between a convo on TS and a post mokking an entire clan on a TWcommunity site, in fact 2 clans.

[|Sith| Max]

I know that. Told Roam to stay off TWC and RCC for a month. Are the admins going to delete the crap here or we gonna wait till christmas?

[Lancy]

Not to be rude or anything, but why should Max or Sith be expected to have any more control over their members than Hell?

[EVO]

With whats on the table here surely you must see the difference Lancer.

[|Sith| Max]

A proffesional clan simply doesnt allow its members to act like some 16 year old "ghetto rapper" wannabe. There are certain formalities which people stick to, one of which is behaving yourself. I know that some of yours seem to think otherwise but i assure you it is true.

[Slayer{ST}]

Stop bringing up from ts max. I personally don't care what chibbs says to you on hell's ts but just remember your a guest on OUR teamspeak and this is the second time in what...a month that you have brought an event from ts to the open clan world. When will you get it...hell's ts hell's rules and since you don't particularly endear yourself to many hells expect to get some crap every once in a while so stop trying to get apologies from people. You regularly act condescending towards hells, I have seen some interesting xfire conversations concerning your views on hell and I still hold the position you abused hells on a previous rcc. Last night I saw an xfire conversation where you said some pretty unecessary stuff about a hell vet. Telling us our trainers are novices is pretty stupid too. Htr and sith are not really much different when it comes to training efficiency. Sith recruits make all the same stupid mistakes as htrs and I have seen plenty of them from your non recruits aswell. Members like corn get kicked for being unecessarily disruptive (playing annoying soundboards even when asked to stop) and pot heads like ben come to hell's ts and act obnoxious. Now I find out you talk about hells behind their backs to other hells? lol...and threatening a clan war over a joke grenday made on our ts...just all of these random conversations and events I have witnessed show clearly that you are in about as much control of yourself as roam is...speaking of which roam shouldn't be calling hell's noobs when he is a completely garbage player on rtw in his own right. Imo no apologies for the roam math convo is necessary as a counter topic was made effectively making both clans equal. So unless someone believes it is their clans moral obligation to apologize I don't think there is any point in asking roam to apologize.

[Lancy]

With whats on the table here surely you must see the difference Lancer.

In this particular instance, sure.

[|Sith| Max]

Stop bringing up from ts max. I personally don't care what chibbs says to you on hell's ts but just remember your a guest on OUR teamspeak and this is the second time in what...a month that you have brought an event from ts to the open clan world. When will you get it...hell's ts hell's rules and since you don't particularly endear yourself to many hells expect to get some crap every once in a while so stop trying to get apologies from people. You regularly act condescending towards hells, I have seen some interesting xfire conversations concerning your views on hell and I still hold the position you abused hells on a previous rcc. Last night I saw an xfire conversation where you said some pretty unecessary stuff about a hell vet. Telling us our trainers are novices is pretty stupid too. Htr and sith are not really much different when it comes to training efficiency. Sith recruits make all the same stupid mistakes as htrs and I have seen plenty of them from your non recruits aswell. Members like corn get kicked for being unecessarily disruptive (playing annoying soundboards even when asked to stop) and pot heads like ben come to hell's ts and act obnoxious. Now I find out you talk about hells behind their backs to other hells? lol...and threatening a clan war over a joke grenday made on our ts...just all of these random conversations and events I have witnessed show clearly that you are in about as much control of yourself as roam is...speaking of which roam shouldn't be calling hell's noobs when he is a completely garbage player on rtw in his own right. Imo no apologies for the roam math convo is necessary as a counter topic was made effectively making both clans equal. So unless someone believes it is their clans moral obligation to apologize I don't think there is any point in asking roam to apologize.

haha you think chibbs and the other kiddies are ONLY immature on TS3? if i got a Euro for every time that a HTR starts raging at me after losing a game i could retire, so stop whining about teamspeak. perhaps that is normal where you come from but you can ask Jomen what we do to members that continuously insult others despite of warnings.

The fatal flaw in your analogy between HTR's and Sith recs is that Sith members can not even be accepted into training before they reach rank 2. If you mean that untrained players play as well as trained HTR's thats truly a problem you should address.

Also endearing myself to Hell clan members is not my top priority, because most of them are children. You can talk to Anthony, Mir, Stryker, Shade, Stormy et cetera and then theres a few nice Hell vets that dont go on TS like Adamski and a few ex hells i can get along with perfectly fine. This is because they dont start arguments to pass the time like the rest.

Ah thats funny, you think its so unfair that i use examples from your teamspeak server but you have absolutely no problems with selecting my xfire conversations as your own. Let him who is innocent cast the first stone

And mistreated Hell members? because i muted every single person involved in the Hell vs Saeculum flamewar for a week? i checked with Mir to get his opinion before doing that every time. if you dont want to get post-moderation then don't flame. the rest of that forum didnt give a flying poop bout your conflicts with saeculum and there is a private message service, and also xfire to do like that.

Finally, if you have a problem with Cornelius, and TS3 has a BAN BUTTON, why are you still arguing with me about it instead of banning the guy for a month?

[Slayer{ST}]

See evo this is what our mature friend from sith max thinks of hell...we are all children to him

What do you do to members who insult? You can't hurt any1 max this is the ing internet.

I don't care what your priority is when your in our house we should receive some level of respect that goes without saying. Hell's ts is private to whoever is there...we can say w/e the we want and shouldn't have to worry about some stupid dutch boy carrying it out to the rest of the clan world.

And think about it max...when did I bring up your xfire convos? After 3 months of you pulling with our teamspeak convos. Your head is already one giant stone as it is so I don't need to bother casting anymore stones.

And what about the sith vs hell incident? Where 3 siths got into a forum fight with about the same number of hells...the hells got warnings and mutes but the siths got nothing. Ask mirariel what he really thought though I doubt he would tell you. You told the "little frustrated hellies" not to mess with your sith members.

You think I wouldn't have banned every sith from ts if I could? You and your siths can be on ts....say w/e you want but it stays on ts. If you have a serious problem with a hell then talk to the hc don't come to twc preaching about how most hell's are children.

On a completely unrelated note...for the love of God your training program is not that special! I take back my statement about sith being asskissers...at least one of them wasn't so scared he couldn't be convinced to share details and training replays. It took a while but I was finally able to judge this program you talk so highly about and quite frankly...its not very impressive.

[|Sith|Renown]

Who showed u our training program?

[dacder]

Who showed u our training program?

hes prolly bluffing

[|Sith|Renown]

hes prolly bluffing

thats y i asked

[dacder]

thats y i asked

ahh ok

[|Sith| Max]

See evo this is what our mature friend from sith max thinks of hell...we are all children to him

What do you do to members who insult? You can't hurt any1 max this is the ing internet.

I don't care what your priority is when your in our house we should receive some level of respect that goes without saying. Hell's ts is private to whoever is there...we can say w/e the we want and shouldn't have to worry about some stupid dutch boy carrying it out to the rest of the clan world.

And think about it max...when did I bring up your xfire convos? After 3 months of you pulling with our teamspeak convos. Your head is already one giant stone as it is so I don't need to bother casting anymore stones.

And what about the sith vs hell incident? Where 3 siths got into a forum fight with about the same number of hells...the hells got warnings and mutes but the siths got nothing. Ask mirariel what he really thought though I doubt he would tell you. You told the "little frustrated hellies" not to mess with your sith members.

You think I wouldn't have banned every sith from ts if I could? You and your siths can be on ts....say w/e you want but it stays on ts. If you have a serious problem with a hell then talk to the hc don't come to twc preaching about how most hell's are children.

On a completely unrelated note...for the love of God your training program is not that special! I take back my statement about sith being asskissers...at least one of them wasn't so scared he couldn't be convinced to share details and training replays. It took a while but I was finally able to judge this program you talk so highly about and quite frankly...its not very impressive.

No need to twist my words mate. I said some hell are bastards. most are neutral, and then nice people like mir, stormy, shade, stryker, anthony, evo, the adults. This simply comes down to liking people who are old enough to behave and hating little kids that just type the first thing they think up.

i told you to ask jomen what we do to members who repeatedly disrespect other clans. We kick them out. back in the day he trolled a few people and complaints from oldschool players kept rolling in, so eventually the council decided they had enough. He had his fair share of warnings. Why do you constantly associate administratorial actions with hurting people? fetishist or something?


Funny cause i dont remember any sith VS hell flamewars on the first RCC, and policy still dictates that anyone involved gets a 1 week muting, no exceptions. i can simply ask the other admins who were there if they remember something like that occuring and counter that bs with quotes.

No, if sith members are going to be on your TS there will be discipline. if corn uses soundboards simply get the admin to do something instead of crying about banning every one of em.


Well thats your word on our training program versus that of Linus, Rev, Mir, Aga, FK, Deerhunter, Stranger, Mel and Pie eater who all seemed to be perfectly happy with it. ive never said it was the best but it sure as hell is a good one, and im pretty sure most other established clans have good training programs too. You seem to miss the point.

If i had a problem with the Hell clan on a whole i'd be posting the opinions of half of all the noteworthy people. I got a problem with people like you and anyone else who does not respect others, and that type should not expect any form of kindness from me.

[Slayer{ST}]

Yes I am really going to tell u who showed it to me and thus get him in unecessary trouble just to satisfy you guys...anyway if you guys think I am bluffing thats fine...point is that now I know the training program is nothing special.

[Magic_8_Ball]

Even if you're not bluffing, the content of the program isn't what makes the program special, but it's the trainers that actually put the stuff together and add things that aren't really listed in the program...

Though on a slightly off topic note, this conversation reminded me that I have to get training done when I find time before Max gets mad. =.=

[Slayer{ST}]

Sure you don't remember it (just like you don't remember raging on ts about how you would get the fbi to pick up aragon)...and neither do the other admins for this reason. You were the first one on the scene and left nothing for the other admins too see as you deleted the entire argument and then posted a derogatory post against hell. I know your trying to make yourself all mature looking now that hell's hc and higher ranks are focused on you...but seriously pretty much everybody has seen you make sweeping remarks against the hell clan in its entirety.

Idc about their word and your missing my point. I never said the sith training program is bad. I said its not as special as you lead people to believe. Your entire clan is way to wrapped up in that program (talking about it is grounds for getting kicked out? rofl) and you have made some pretty high claims..."Zeke at one point you decided to become the best tourney player in history and I decided to become the best trainer" "hell clan has novice trainers" and a lengthy xfire convo about how if hell and sith went to war sith would destroy hell completely because apparently our players are crap. Now that I know about the program its kinda laughable when I read a post where you reference this illustrious, mysterious ancient training program unique to sith alone.

Once again...what I am trying to get into your head is that its really not acceptable to go to a clan's ts...make a bunch of your own insulting remarks...and then start copy and pasting convos and threatening wars over things that that happen in said ts server.