Most disturbing book scenes of all time...

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    Two years ago I would never have thought a book could create an image that I would define "disturbing".

    I now nominate Dexter by Design, Chapter 2 to win an award for the above Title

    A wikipedia summary does not do it justice:
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    While visiting an art gallery, Dexter and Rita are introduced to the concept of body parts being used as art by an avant-garde performance piece called "Jennifer's Leg" in which the artist amputates her own limb.


    And to top that, it's sequel gives a very good reason why not to tell bedtime stories about monsters eating flesh.

    Anyone read it/something worse?

    P.S. I would highly reccomend these books as they are, in a word, brilliant.
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    Kafka's entire novel The Trial is the most existentially disturbing literature I have read.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chilon View Post
    Kafka's entire novel The Trial is the most existentially disturbing literature I have read.
    Definately
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    Large portions of George R R Martin's A Song of Ice and Fire, as awsome as they were, were quite disturbing. Namely the one when
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    Cersei and Jame Lannister, a brother and a sister, hav sex over their dead son's grave, who was born of incest
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orko View Post
    Large portions of George R R Martin's A Song of Ice and Fire, as awsome as they were, were quite disturbing. Namely the one when
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    Cersei and Jame Lannister, a brother and a sister, hav sex over their dead son's grave, who was born of incest
    Ah, so that is why it's being made into a HBO drama. Nice for True Blood to have some competition in the ed Up category.



     
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    Ah, so that is why it's being made into a HBO drama. Nice for True Blood to have some competition in the ed Up category.
    Its being into a drama because Martin's Song of Ice and Fire is the most realistic fantasy ever written with the best character development a fantasy novel series has ever seen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chilon View Post
    Its being into a drama because Martin's Song of Ice and Fire is the most realistic fantasy ever written with the best character development a fantasy novel series has ever seen.
    You obviously haven't read Tolkien's works.

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    Twilight. The entire series.



     
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    the_mango55 said:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orko View Post
    Large portions of George R R Martin's A Song of Ice and Fire, as awsome as they were, were quite disturbing. Namely the one when
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    Cersei and Jame Lannister, a brother and a sister, hav sex over their dead son's grave, who was born of incest
    I was going to suggest that also, but the part where

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    Gregor Clegane smashes the princess's infant son against the wall in front of her, then rapes her with her son's brains still splattered all over both of them. Then he kills her after that.


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    You obviously haven't read Tolkien's works.
    I have, Martin is much better at character development than Tolkien. Tolkien is a fantastic linguist and great at developing a deep, complex, and rich world. But as a writer he's not the greatest.
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    You obviously haven't read Tolkien's works.

    To the contrary I was actually comparing Martin's work to Tolkien specifically. Have you even read the Song of Ice and Fire?

    Personally I found LoTR very meh (and I read it twice even as a kid and adult). But then my preference is to realistic or "low fantasy" rather ultra high fantasy.

    And Tolkien has not a single female character of any note. Certainly can't compare to Martin's deep ensemble of Cersei Lannister, Catelyn Stark and her daughter Arya, Brienne of Tarth, Arianne Martell not to mention Daeny Targaryen.

    The only interesting character that Tolkien has is Smeagul and even that is not written from the depth of human emotions that Tyrion's chapters are in Ice and Fire.

    I am well aware that Tolkien has his fanatical fans devoted to his made up languages and what not. But that doesn't impress me. I really was not into Tolkien's hobbit chapters and hobbits in general. Ugh! Worse than ewoks IMO.

    Anyhow, its cool you think Tolkien is so amazing and I agree he has a great world-builder type of mind but no interesting plot twists in that entire LOTR triology. Very predictable storyline. To me (and many others) Martin writes Shakespearean tragedy, Tolkien writes "fantasy space-opera". The character development and depth in Martin's characters, especially the POV ones, is really incredible writing that transcends the genre.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orko View Post
    Large portions of George R R Martin's A Song of Ice and Fire, as awsome as they were, were quite disturbing. Namely the one when
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    Cersei and Jame Lannister, a brother and a sister, hav sex over their dead son's grave, who was born of incest
    Isn't she also on her period in that scene? But I must agree it's a pretty ed up scene and Inarius have you read A Song of Ice and Fire? because otherwise you can't really say that Tolkien is a better author. I prefer Martin every day in the week because I like characters that actually have flaws.
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    Plenty of stuff in Berserk. Great as it is, the disturbing level makes anything in A song of ice and fire look like MA 13+ content.

    This i have to mention The Eclipse again. It just so wrong . Among others but that the most messed up part till Uncle Skullie comes round and Save Guts's ass.

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    Isn't she also on her period in that scene? But I must agree it's a pretty ed up scene and Inarus have you read A Song of Ice and Fire? because otherwise you can't really say that Tolkien is a better author. I prefer Martin every day in the week because I like characters that actually have flaws.
    Tolkien has made a perfect world with so much detail in characters and locations that the only work of fantasy that can rival it is the Bible. And I never heard of A Song of Ice and Fire until I joined these forums a year ago, the excellence of an Author can be measured by how well known his books are (dammit, that's self contradiction, no-one here has heard of Jeff Lindsay it seems). And all Tolkien's characters had flaws, even the elves, possibly the elves over all others.
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    Twilight. The entire series.
     
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    the above
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    A Clockwork Orange is pretty disturbing. There comes a point in it when you look past the somewhat cutesy exotic looking language and you realise that not only that Alex is describing scenes of unspeakable savagery, but Burgess' dystopian state is not too far off from Britain today, the only thing he got wrong was the slang.
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    Most scenes from Blood Meridian, many that include Judge Holden. The dance of death comes to mind. Also, the scene where David Brown shoots the kid is a bit on the disturbing side, though it evokes shock and sadness more effectively. Almost made me cry
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    Much of American Psycho had me cringing, especially:
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    When Batemann stabs a child in the throat at a zoo, and when a large rat is inserted into the vagina of a half-dead prostitute
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    The most disturbing scene I ever read was in a book about child abuse. I read it in 1981, I think it was called "The Boy Behind Green Eyes" or something like that.

    A scene was described in which the police entered a home and found a dead child. Scratched into the kitchen table was "Mommy, I'm sorry I didn't clean the kitchen good". She had beaten the boy to death with a broom stick.
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