Giving regions

Hi,
I'm playing as GB and have alliances with amongst others Prussia and Austria. I've been asked to join their wars and have captured a couple of the regions there after. I want to give them back but they only take them back if i pay them to. As an aside in every campaign i've played i capture a region offer it back but no one will take it. I've even repaired the damaged buildings then offered it back but still no good.
Could anyone give me some pointers on diplomacy, as i'm seriously lacking in this respect,
Thanks.

Yeah, I've noticed that too. Sometimes the AI will actually accept control of a region without receiving a lump sum of money in addition, but a lot of the time you'll have to throw in an additional 5k or so to 'sweeten the pot'.

In diplomacy, regions are evaluated according to their wealth and strategic position.
Even though a region usually turns out profitable, the AI always seems to be suspecting you want to dump your waste on it.
Most of the times I get riled up and go "Are YOU the one who's making ME a favour, buddy ? Ya thieving, greedy, ungrateful ..."

If you loot a region the AI nations will accept it if you give them the region plus 1 gold (worth it simply because you get thousands from looting). Try it, works in H difficulty.

Originally Posted by Prince of Darkness

If you loot a region the AI nations will accept it if you give them the region plus 1 gold (worth it simply because you get thousands from looting). Try it, works in H difficulty.

It works on Very hard too. You can sell a region to your enemy, loot it, sell it back, loot it again. cont.

Ok the AI is a bit silly on this one. Some regions can actually be sold for 5k+ but they have to be developed and not threatened by invaders or unrest. If you capture a region and loot it leaving an angry population, understandalby noone will accept this region, even for free. But: If you offer a single technology or any amount of money (£100) with the region the AI is tricked into thinking you are giving them a gift and will accept it every time. This is a very usefull tactic for creating buffer states and getting easy money from looting without having to worry about rebellions.

Originally Posted by [BsA]Dave

Ok the AI is a bit silly on this one. Some regions can actually be sold for 5k+ but they have to be developed and not threatened by invaders or unrest. If you capture a region and loot it leaving an angry population, understandalby noone will accept this region, even for free. But: If you offer a single technology or any amount of money (£100) with the region the AI is tricked into thinking you are giving them a gift and will accept it every time. This is a very usefull tactic for creating buffer states and getting easy money from looting without having to worry about rebellions.

Yeah, stupid AI. But some people keep claiming that the AI simply refuses to accept looted provinces. But its very easy to trick them. 1 Gold is enough.

I've had this difficulty when playing as France. After occuping Vienna I try to give it back to Austria (Historically accurate + I don't have to garrison it with a full stack for 20 turns) but I can't get them to accept it

Originally Posted by iPhoenix

I've had this difficulty when playing as France. After occuping Vienna I try to give it back to Austria (Historically accurate + I don't have to garrison it with a full stack for 20 turns) but I can't get them to accept it

+1 gold, +1 GOLD!!!

Originally Posted by Prince of Darkness

+1 gold, +1 GOLD!!!

Tried it, TRIED IT!!!

Originally Posted by iPhoenix

Tried it, TRIED IT!!!

Really? When I reread my post I seem a bit offensive.
It works everytime for me. And I mean give like this: give 1 gold and the region without demanding anything in return. Also regions that already rebelled won't work.
Is my computer's AI more stupid than yours?

Originally Posted by Prince of Darkness

Really? When I reread my post I seem a bit offensive.
It works everytime for me. And I mean give like this: give 1 gold and the region without demanding anything in return. Also regions that already rebelled won't work.
Is my computer's AI more stupid than yours?

Lol no worries

And mine usually needs 2,000 cash in the deal as well, so I guess yes it is

if you give an ally a region with your army in garrison will you still retain the army?

Originally Posted by Emanuel

if you give an ally a region with your army in garrison will you still retain the army?

Yes they will be standing outside the city.

Originally Posted by johntarmac

Originally Posted by Emanuel

if you give an ally a region with your army in garrison will you still retain the army?

Yes they will be standing outside the city.

Only if you have military access agreements with that faction you're giving territory to. If you don't have access the game will warp your armies to the nearest piece of land that your faction owns. This happened several times in my last french campaign that I'm currently playing. The above example of giving Austria back to the Austrians sent my armies back to the easternmost point in Piedmont, just south of Milan.



Also, the AI will do almost anything for money, it just needs to be enough. I love carving up the map and recreating it to suit my Imperial needs.I do a lot of emergent creating and then gifting of regions, so I get new nations with 2-4 regions each. You do have to sweeten deals and at this point I sweeten everything with an offer of 10k... this includes braking alliances and declarations of war. No one says "no".

So far as GB i have gave 3 regions.

1. Gibraltar to the portuguese because i never formed a defensive garrison and a full stack army of spaniords was on it's way.
2. The region next to bretagne to the east. Normandy i think. Gave it to the sweden. Apparently the AI never seems to attack a country that have never attacked him.
3. And Navarra also to the portuguese because of the same reason of nº1. But this time the spaniords were right in front of the settlement ready to attack it.