Faction Slot

[Paladin94610]

The game engine is able to run 31 factions at once. Is it too dangerous to run the game on the edge of its limit or something? Anyway, there are only 29 factions I have seen (including rebels) where are the other two?

British Isles
1.England
2.Scotland

Scandinavia
3.Denmark
4.Norway

5. France

Iberia
6.Aragon
7.Leon and Castile
8.Portugal
9.The Moors

Italy
10. Papal States
11.Genoa
12.Venice
13.Sicily

Germany
14. Holy Roman Empire

Eastern Europe
15. Poland
16. Hungary

Eastern Baltic
17. Novgorod
18. Lithuania
19. Teutonic Order

20. Kievan Rus

21. The Roman Empire

22. Seljuq Empire

23. The Crusader States

24. The Fatimid Caliphate

25. Khwarezmian Empire

26. The Cuman Khanate

Emergent Factions
27. The Mongols
28. The Timurids

29. Rebels

I am confidently wrote this list coz I had a look into the descr_strat counted the number of factions to be just 29 which I thought 31.

[Mornai]

There are only 29 factions because the EDU unit limit has been reached, meaning no more new units can be added without deleting previous ones. A new faction needs unique units, right? Since there's no room for more units, a new faction would require removing other factions units, or removing several mercenaries, so that's probably why there's only 29.

[Paladin94610]

Yes. But we can freeing some unit slots by axing some unnecessary fancy units like Free Company Longbowmen or Swordsmen and Serbian Knights, etc. I never know the Georgian Faction Project can be carried out without axing Timurids. What a silly boy..

[Mornai]

Yeah, but i thought you were asking why there were only 29 factions? Sorry if i misread.

[Paladin94610]

No problems, mate. Anyway, I prefer to a Serbian Kingdom or a Bulgarian one in late era instead of Georgia, which might have laid on the horde emerging positions.

Or, a Abbasid Caliphate will be good too. Letting the Turks fight with one more Muslim faction will provide the Crusader States a breathing space. (Although the crusader states is given more starting bonuses, they didn't make towards 150 turns.)
Serbia may be start with Scopia and Bulgar Kingdom would be Sofia, making the Balkans area rather interesting. Well, then it's just an idea.

Like this one, borders in 1355.

[Smokey Bacon]

Yeah, as far as I understand, if we got rid of alot of the duplicate units we could add 1 or 2 factions depending how much space was freed up.

[Medkirtys]

No unique factions are a joke. Just remember Thrace or Dacia or Pontus from vanilla RTW

[bɑne]

No unique factions are a joke. Just remember Thrace or Dacia or Pontus from vanilla RTW

Maybe I'm making your point: I can't.

[Medkirtys]

Maybe I'm making your point: I can't.

Sorry, i meant no unique units, but i think you understood that

[bɑne]

Sorry, i meant no unique units, but i think you understood that

Yeah I doubt I ever payed them attention beyond looking at their roster (and eradicating them in the cm).
Clone rosters don't really work - just look at Byzantine. The sole reason I tried them out was initially for the flamethrowers.
Same with the naptha slingers/throwers.

[agc28]

I vote for removing some of the totally useless units (maybe others may find them useful, but I never recruit them.)

1. levy peasants/rural levies
2. levy archers
3. pilgrims


and why can't we combine some of the existing units that are very similar. e.g. Miles = Feudal Knights. Just an idea.

[Lemming69]

theres a whole bunch of units which could go- there was a thread about it a few weeks ago