TROM2 - Feedback and Suggestions

[WarnerVH]

I play Russia alot and it is rather hard economy wise in the beginning. I have found on turn 1 of the game to complete the first senate mission and ally with prussia and then choose carefully your trade partners and then attempt to create more trade. Move you gents to a university and study economy based techs. Also in other turns build your farms and other "out of city" infrastructure. After a while you will have some income; but be warned in the beginning of the game Russia needs to choose it's wars carefully.

[Yarkis de Bodemloze]

Oh and I've found a some kind recruitment-exp problem: In TRoM basic units can be build from all kinds buildings in cities, but when you level them you don't get ability to recruit more experienced units from a pool, despite having them in building description.

If you can recruit a unit from multiple buildings sadly the lowest experience level is chosen. That's hardcoded.

In future releases, will TROM2 add years to the turns. I'd like to see something that goes to 1820, at least.

Good idea. In 1.8 the normal campaign will run until 1815, conquer the world until 1820.

I like your mod a lot I think I am a veteran total war player, but your economy system is rather brutal... As Russia I am having a hard time staying on the plus side, eventhough I havn't build any units, gone into any real wars (little with Ottoman) and constantly building for a better economy.. Trade and all that. But I am still only getting 4000 plus each round. And i have like 1 army... I have tried installing the easier economy mod, but I am not sure if it working.. How can I make sure if it is working ? Upkeep or ? Is it save compatible ? But this mod ! Like how the enemy sends full stacks in a very smart way. An how GB have taken different places in France

The easier economy mod can be enabled/disabled at any time. It lowers upkeep and some costs, so you should see more money in your balance sheet after installation. Make shure it is above trom2_core in the list.

1.8 will be released next weekend. Here are two new units for Austria:

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[Edax]

Just a sidenote, playing as the Ottoman Empire, I've noticed that my ally France hasn't done ****. I've had to wipe out Russia, Austria and Prussia all on my lonesome. I find that my protectorates do a far better job assisting me then super-nations like France. You'd think they'd be more aggressive with the several massive armies it has protecting it's borders...

[Vizze]

I can't get the easier economy mod to work. I have been using the script and the mod manager a lot of times before with empire total war. But the upkeep stays the same no matter what. The economy is stays the same if I remove the file or I keep the file in the script. So... Could you please give me another answer then the one in the installation file ? I can read you know..

[Yarkis de Bodemloze]

If you installed it correctly in the right load order then I have no idea why it shouldn't work. When I start Austria in the custom campaign I have -41 income without and 301 income with the submod.

[Edax]

I'm planning on doing a Navel film next, is there anyway I can easily alter the moral of ships so they will more likely fight till they sink?

[Yarkis de Bodemloze]

I'm planning on doing a Navel film next, is there anyway I can easily alter the moral of ships so they will more likely fight till they sink?

Her is a pack for you. You have to enable it with the modmanager or directly in the user script. It has to be above trom2_core.pack. It shifts the ship moral scale by 10 points upwards (ship_morale_base = 10 instead of 0). Hope that helps.

[iCore]

yarkis, have you maybe thought of reconsidering the amount/balance of ships owned by the british, the french and the spanish in the campaigns?
unfortunately at the moment beating the franco-spanish fleet as britain even on very hard is quite simple. two first rates, two second rates and 4 or 5 smaller ships on the (player) british side make it really relaxing to gain naval supremacy against napoleon. the french fleet has one first rate and some third rates, but nothing to compete with britain. historically the french and spanish had ~ one fourth of ships more than britain in the battle of trafalgar - 44 to 33 ships in total. can you maybe give the french and spanish approximately the same amount of ships the british have on the map, maybe more (two thirds to the french, one third to the spanish)?

another question: is it possible to link the amount of the nations' starting troops/ships to the campaign difficulty settings?

is it maybe possible to create a script for the french after defeating some small or coalition countries to gain their (or a predetermined amount of) ships? after trafalgar this was the biggest fear of the british - napoleon gaining control over the navy of defeated nations and again challenging the royal navy.

[Yarkis de Bodemloze]

yarkis, have you maybe thought of reconsidering the amount/balance of ships owned by the british, the french and the spanish in the campaigns?
unfortunately at the moment beating the franco-spanish fleet as britain even on very hard is quite simple. two first rates, two second rates and 4 or 5 smaller ships on the (player) british side make it really relaxing to gain naval supremacy against napoleon. the french fleet has one first rate and some third rates, but nothing to compete with britain. historically the french and spanish had ~ one fourth of ships more than britain in the battle of trafalgar - 44 to 33 ships in total. can you maybe give the french and spanish approximately the same amount of ships the british have on the map, maybe more (two thirds to the french, one third to the spanish)?

another question: is it possible to link the amount of the nations' starting troops/ships to the campaign difficulty settings?

is it maybe possible to create a script for the french after defeating some small or coalition countries to gain their (or a predetermined amount of) ships? after trafalgar this was the biggest fear of the british - napoleon gaining control over the navy of defeated nations and again challenging the royal navy.

According to what I know the British had at least as much ships of the line then Spain and France combined (and their quality was far better). But gameplay wise it may be a good idea to give the Spanish and French some extra ships when you play Britain (and only then). I already gave the British CAI more ships in 1.8 so they have chance to rule the seas.

I could give both the British and the French some ships of the line when they conquer Denmark as the first nation. But I have to test for possible bugs first (don't know what happens when I spawn ships into a port that is occupied). Any other nation at your mind (Portugal?)?

It is possible (by scripting) to add additional units according to difficulty. However, I don't intend to do it (too much work). As it is now, higher difficulty in TROM2 only changes the aggressiveness of the AI without influencing other factors.

[Edax]

I yet again ask for adding units to Custom battles.
Add Irish Legion and Mamaluke Guard for the French. You can get rid of the Prussian light infantry for the french, they suck and look bad...
For the British, can you add the Scot Grey's and Brunswick Infantry? You can get rid of one of the redundant rifle units (not the 95th)

[Yarkis de Bodemloze]

I yet again ask for adding units to Custom battles.
Add Irish Legion and Mamaluke Guard for the French. You can get rid of the Prussian light infantry for the french, they suck and look bad...
For the British, can you add the Scot Grey's and Brunswick Infantry? You can get rid of one of the redundant rifle units (not the 95th)

As you wish... But the Royal Scots should already be in (the new version ones).

[Yarkis de Bodemloze]

TROM2 1.8 is released! Have fun and report any bugs so I can fix them asap.

[yantar007]

Simply excellently! And as works new 1,8 with together The Battlefield Smoke Mod for TROM 1.71 ?

[Yarkis de Bodemloze]

Yes, BSM will still work properly.

[Yarkis de Bodemloze]

I uploaded a new version 1.81 because the new Ottoman technology was missing. Sorry for the inconvenience.

[Sosobra]

You sir, simple put are a badass.

[duhsveti1]

I love this mod. It really made this game playable. Thank you. Thank you so much

[ibigscarymonster]

Great mod!
I noticed PDGuru created a mod that gives starting French units some experience to represent the previous battles they have fought prior to 1805. Seemed like a good idea, any thoughts on doing something similar?

[Yarkis de Bodemloze]

Great mod!
I noticed PDGuru created a mod that gives starting French units some experience to represent the previous battles they have fought prior to 1805. Seemed like a good idea, any thoughts on doing something similar?

Well, it's a bit of a balance problem. France is already rather strong with all the elite units it has. But I think about it.

[Serenissima]

I don't know if this is done already, as I haven't reinstalled NTW yet, but what year does the campaign start in?

It'd be great and appropriate to see a 1789 or 1793 start to the grand campaign (and 'coalition' campaign), with the early wars of the French Revolution and all, rather than the game's default 1805 start, which is practically past a lot of the fun stuff!

Of course, if this is done already, then that's great too. ^_^