What is purpose of port blockade?

[Tulumbe]

I play with Carthagina and July after first 20 turns have 70k and more money and scipi when I left them on only one city ander port blockade, have income more then -1000 per turn (I saw with spy) and thear money stil rise and they also made ships in port under blockade.

What is then purpose of port blockade?
Sory for bad English.

[Heinz Guderian]

It doesnt let that port trade with other city's ports therefore reducing their income from trade to build stuff.

[empr guy]

it stops it from trading with other ports, and also gets in the way of ships trying to leave. I've only found it effective if the enemy is making most of their money from sea trade. Otherwise it dosent do alot. Also because they only had one city, what their income is should be irrelevent

[Darth_Revan]

it stops trade

[Tulumbe]

Yes but Ai cheats and have more then 30k although he have minus in all his citis (I saw with spy he is in minus in all citys). So what purpos of blocade when he have unlimited money. Just took Carthagina and make one turn and see how much money have Julli on financial graf. They are richest people in world. But when I took Bruts non Roman fraction is rich like when I playing with Cartaga. I know that they want to make your real historical enemy more stronger so it would be more historical but I can`t economical break them down only, I can destroy more units then they can make.

[Blatta Optima Maxima]

If you play the campaign on very hard the AI just gets +10000 per turn, so it can be called cheating, and takes away an important strategic factor from the game, the possibility to use economic warfare. I never play the campaign on more than hard. All that makes the game more boring. Even on hard it gets +4000 per turn.

[Brusilov]

On campaign difficulty the AI get less bonus on VH than they do on H. It's a fairly well known bug within RTW.

[HanatielHawk]

I play with Carthagina and July after first 20 turns have 70k and more money and scipi when I left them on only one city ander port blockade, have income more then -1000 per turn (I saw with spy) and thear money stil rise and they also made ships in port under blockade.

What is then purpose of port blockade?
Sory for bad English.

Port blockade is what we 'economy destroyers' call destroying the other nations economy. Sea trade is the most effective trade, certainly if you posess the Collosus of Rhodos, as it increases naval trade by 30% (huge). Anyway you can easily destroy somebody's economy by blocking ports, the general trade of the enemy is then reduced by more than 50% which means a big smack to the economy and in a later stage of war the army capacity of the enemy is also reduced, making it easier to conquer! If a port is blockaded, the allied factions of the enemy their economy is damaged as well because there is less trade, in areas as Gaul, Spain and Carthage it can damage certain economies severe.

Oh and if you have a big fleet it also reduces the chance of the enemy building ships and backstabbing your fleet which can hold armies who can determain the war.

That's what port blockades do!

[Tulumbe]

Cocroach the great: I play on normal XD
HanatielHawk: I now how trade is good (I playing with Carthage) but if I hold all his citys in blokade and send spy in all his citys and see that he is minus in all his citys and at the end of turns his finance graph only rise and only reason why he don`t make 10 units per turn is that he have only 3 citys. And for this reason port blockade is more costly for me because of ship upkeep

And you said something of reduces the chance of the enemy building ships how this is working because when I first time blockade the port its said that blockade stop him from making ships but I saw he make ship under blockade.

[HanatielHawk]

Cocroach the great: I play on normal XD
HanatielHawk: I now how trade is good (I playing with Carthage) but if I hold all his citys in blokade and send spy in all his citys and see that he is minus in all his citys and at the end of turns his finance graph only rise and only reason why he don`t make 10 units per turn is that he have only 3 citys. And for this reason port blockade is more costly for me because of ship upkeep

And you said something of reduces the chance of the enemy building ships how this is working because when I first time blockade the port its said that blockade stop him from making ships but I saw he make ship under blockade.

I meant that the enemy cannot send the ships to sail away if the port is blockaded, they can still build ships yes, but they cannot move with the ships until the port is freed. I don't know if this is the same way with land-armies blockading enemy ports.

[Tulumbe]

Wrong they can leave port under blockade XD saw with my eyes and read on several places.

[Blatta Optima Maxima]

No, they must fight to get out. Maybe you don't know how to blockade a port?

[empr guy]

No, they must fight to get out. Maybe you don't know how to blockade a port?

ships can get out of bloackaded ports, but the first turn they get cought in your zone of control or whatever. If you leave them alone they leave the second turn. (although if your on the side of the port or something i think they can leave in one turn)

[Tulumbe]

you just right click on the port and they make the stakes tied with ropes around port.
or is something else?

[Genius of the Restoration]

The AI also cheats and gets bonus income above what you could receive in the same situation, so trying to deny their economy isn't that great an idea because it will always be fine anyway because of this bonus and the fact that the AI wont recruit only the good, expensive units.

[HanatielHawk]

The AI also cheats and gets bonus income above what you could receive in the same situation, so trying to deny their economy isn't that great an idea because it will always be fine anyway because of this bonus and the fact that the AI wont recruit only the good, expensive units.

Hmm well if I destroy the economy of an enemy, their economy is really destroyed because I can see the stacks just disappear into nothing, so I dont ever notice a moneybonus

[Entropy Judge]

The AI also cheats and gets bonus income above what you could receive in the same situation, so trying to deny their economy isn't that great an idea because it will always be fine anyway because of this bonus and the fact that the AI wont recruit only the good, expensive units.

Depends on the faction and the difficulty level. Blockading Greece or Egypt, for example, is a lot more efficient than blockading Spain for some reason (at least, in my experience). Like HanatielHawk, though, I have seen factions fall from power because of too-frequent blockades that crippled their ability to train units.

[Fireright]

The AI also cheats and gets bonus income above what you could receive in the same situation, so trying to deny their economy isn't that great an idea because it will always be fine anyway because of this bonus and the fact that the AI wont recruit only the good, expensive units.

Aye, when I discovered that the AI gets money bonus cheats, it kinda killed the fun for me of trying to blockade em to bleed em dry and ruin their economy. Now I only blockade to hamper their ship production.

[Genius of the Restoration]

You can see it with Scythia more clearly. No way is it normally possible to afford stacks with that land.

edit: Yeah, difficulty level changes it. I haven't seen a faction fall because of it before, but I'm sure it'd be more beneficial on campaign difficulties up to maybe medium. There are still much better ways to deny their economy. Taking settlements being the biggie

If you've got a couple of sea units free with nothing to do and you wont use them for much, by all means blockade enemy ports. I wouldn't build units with this in mind though. The sea, for me, is only there for transporting of troops and generating my own income. Navies are a rare feature of any campaign I play.

[Blatta Optima Maxima]

The AI doesn't have economy. It has the favour of the gods, who sponsor it.