My r(etard)einforcements don't care

[Sn000kerAble]

Hello, I'm having a little problem with my reinforcements!

The situation: my archenemy, Lithuania (don't laugh!), besieges a town of mine, Riga, with two armies. They seem to know that they can't take it so they just hold on the siege until the town surrenders. With only 3 rounds left and public order at 75%, I think it's a good time to break out, but since I can't beat them with the few units in town, I ordered some men from a nearby town to fall my enemies in the back.

The thing is, my second army doesn't seem to care about the battle, because when I order them to attack, they WALK to the enemies. That usually takes so much time that they already killed my army with their two, or, if I wait, they already focused their soldiers and then rush for my reinforcement.

Is there anyway I can command my reinforcement-retards to RUSH to this barbarians or is there no way to put them out of their hamtitamti-mood? I mean, they have a fu++ing walk in the park and I watch my men die.

P.S. : i also tried to let them be in defensive, so they rush to the city (yes they CAN run) but when they meet the support of my enemy, they die faster than levy archers.

[Slyspy]

My only experience of this is as an attacker, when the AI reinforcements march slowly through my army in their eagerness to enter the city to join their friends within the walls. I don't know why.

[Sn000kerAble]

Well, in my version, I make a breakout and my friends walk to the enemy, while the friend of my enemy RUNS... if they would walk too, no biggie, but not so. I mean it's unfair

[preachercheeze]

take control of the army attacking from the rear instead... that way you get a field battle and the possibility for your besieged army to be an reinforcement instead...

[Sn000kerAble]

Good thinking, thank you. Will try it immediately. Btw is it possible to read the hanseatic league popup again? I'm not sure about my 5 condition-towns and I'm in round 123. I miss only Novgorod, Oslo, Nykoeping and Talinn...

[philipjd]

Best way around this situation (and the ONLY one) is to command those forces yourself (by having less than the maximum, or using the overflow as reinforcements. But, if you sortie then cavalry will make it to join up ok, but infantry if you run them will be exhausted and almost useless, so... attack with the relieving force and let the garrison reinforce them - I try to position any relieving army in such a way that the reinforcements join up as close as possible to the main attacking force (be wary of AI controlled reinforcements with a General, as he will probably die with the AI's usual kamikaze tactics).

[Sn000kerAble]

Thanks for all the advices
I made it to destroy the enemy army by entering into a field battle, also it does confuses me that I have a field battle when I have forces coming out of the city.

The thing that makes me really mad is the limited control over my reinforcements. 3 stances, which are senseless because it's from *slow and agressive* to *fast and suicidal*... Couldn't they handle that a bit better? Or do I oversee controls? Well, thx for help, topic can be closed.

I just hope my Hanseatic League will come soon... I mean after more than 100 rounds!

[preachercheeze]

Thanks for all the advices
I made it to destroy the enemy army by entering into a field battle, also it does confuses me that I have a field battle when I have forces coming out of the city.

The thing that makes me really mad is the limited control over my reinforcements. 3 stances, which are senseless because it's from *slow and agressive* to *fast and suicidal*... Couldn't they handle that a bit better? Or do I oversee controls? Well, thx for help, topic can be closed.

I just hope my Hanseatic League will come soon... I mean after more than 100 rounds!

you can also choose to take control of the reinforcements yourself before the battle, as stated above... that way, the units will come under your control directly...

And see it as the approaching army was a great threat for the besiegers so they had to leave the city unguarded and thus letting the garrison there to march forth to fall at their backs...


oh, the Hanseatic League might have already been built by another faction if you haven't gotten it yet... it is a HQ after all (only one per campaign)...

[TheBard]

I don't know how to fix this particular issue, but for what it's worth, things tend to work out better if you let the AI command the reinforcements. I forget the names of each, but click the first box and not the second. That way, the army comes in immediately (rather than piecemeal if you already have a full stack), but the computer seems to do a better job completely on its own rather than if you are allowed to tell it generally what to do. I've also noticed that any generals in the reinforcing army are much less likely to suicidally charge if completely controlled by the AI, rather than the semi-control that you get when you click both boxes.

Sorry that isn't more detailed, but I'm not at home at the moment, so I can't check to see what each is called.

[Black_ice_Spain]

i just put them defensive if i dont want to move.

or double click on agressive so they run and attack.

[Neptune7]

i just put them defensive if i dont want to move.

or double click on agressive so they run and attack.

I put my reinforcements on defensive and they still move. I hate it when my general moves with the reinforcments because he always puts himself in danger and I have sometimes lost foolish bravado governors that way..

[Sn000kerAble]

Let the AI control the reinforcements seems to be a good solution to me too. The controls of a second army on the battlefield are just to limited, so all they do is either waiting for the apocalypse or running right into it...
And somehow I'm impressed how the AI evolves its tactics and uses the units to maximum efficiency. But sometimes it's as dumb as a spoon, in the end it's just a question of luck

[Amaranth]

And somehow I'm impressed how the AI evolves its tactics and uses the units to maximum efficiency

Ahh those are such miraculous moments!

But sometimes it's as dumb as a spoon, in the end it's just a question of luck

It usually is dumb as a spoon Especially when they're supposed to be reinforcements.

[bɑne]

Ahh those are such miraculous moments!



It usually is dumb as a spoon Especially when they're supposed to be reinforcements.

Thats a good image. Like bringing a spoon to a knifefight.