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    caralampio's Avatar Magnificus
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    Default Papal numerals

    SS 6.3 includes my fix to remove Papal numerals (Martinus XIV, for instance).

    Why we wouldn't want numerals on Popes' names:
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    Numberless Popes: Removes the numeral from Pope (and other Papal States character) names. While the Roman numeral might arguably give a “papal” taste to the name, it gives rise to situations like Gregorius X being succeeded by Gregorius X (or even worse, by Gregorius IX!). Also, having diplomats and spies named Clemens V or Julius II is ridiculous. Finally, if we follow the same logic kings should also have numerals (Henry IV, Alfonso VI, etc.) but they don’t.

    However, at least in my game, Popes have numerals. I found the problem: the bin file names.txt.strings doesn not correspond to names.txt. It is very easy to fix: eliminate names.txt.strings (found in your SS6.3/data/text folder) and restart the game. A new names.txt.strings will be created using names.txt. Savegame compatible.

    PS: With the added advantage that, if you do like Papal numerals, you can leave things as they are!
    Last edited by caralampio; September 18, 2010 at 10:55 AM.

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    Default Re: Papal numerals

    Have you installed the 6.3 fixcollection? Reason a asked is that names.txt.strings.bin should be set to 0byte (forcing regeneration) with the fixes collection so it will (should) regenerate into the correct file on the next start of the game. If it doesn't then there might be something wrong either with the fixes or their application.

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    Default Re: Papal numerals

    Hi, look what did I find in export_descr_character_traits.txt:
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    Trait PopeName1
    Characters family
    Hidden

    Level Pope1_epithet_desc
    Description Pope1_epithet_desc
    EffectsDescription Pope1_epithet_desc
    Epithet Pope1_epithet_desc
    Threshold 1

    Level Pope1_epithet_desc
    Description Pope1_epithet_desc
    EffectsDescription Pope1_epithet_desc
    Epithet Pope2_epithet_desc
    Threshold 2

    Level Pope1_epithet_desc
    Description Pope1_epithet_desc
    EffectsDescription Pope1_epithet_desc
    Epithet Pope3_epithet_desc
    Threshold 3

    Level Pope1_epithet_desc
    Description Pope1_epithet_desc
    EffectsDescription Pope1_epithet_desc
    Epithet Pope4_epithet_desc
    Threshold 4

    Level Pope1_epithet_desc
    Description Pope1_epithet_desc
    EffectsDescription Pope1_epithet_desc
    Epithet Pope5_epithet_desc
    Threshold 5

    Level Pope1_epithet_desc
    Description Pope1_epithet_desc
    EffectsDescription Pope1_epithet_desc
    Epithet Pope6_epithet_desc
    Threshold 6

    Level Pope1_epithet_desc
    Description Pope1_epithet_desc
    EffectsDescription Pope1_epithet_desc
    Epithet Pope7_epithet_desc
    Threshold 7

    Level Pope1_epithet_desc
    Description Pope1_epithet_desc
    EffectsDescription Pope1_epithet_desc
    Epithet Pope8_epithet_desc
    Threshold 8

    Level Pope1_epithet_desc
    Description Pope1_epithet_desc
    EffectsDescription Pope1_epithet_desc
    Epithet Pope9_epithet_desc
    Threshold 9

    ;------------------------------------------
    Trait PopeName2
    Characters family
    Hidden

    Level Pope1_epithet_desc
    Description Pope1_epithet_desc
    EffectsDescription Pope1_epithet_desc
    Epithet Pope10_epithet_desc
    Threshold 1

    Level Pope1_epithet_desc
    Description Pope1_epithet_desc
    EffectsDescription Pope1_epithet_desc
    Epithet Pope11_epithet_desc
    Threshold 2

    Level Pope1_epithet_desc
    Description Pope1_epithet_desc
    EffectsDescription Pope1_epithet_desc
    Epithet Pope12_epithet_desc
    Threshold 3

    Level Pope1_epithet_desc
    Description Pope1_epithet_desc
    EffectsDescription Pope1_epithet_desc
    Epithet Pope13_epithet_desc
    Threshold 4

    Level Pope1_epithet_desc
    Description Pope1_epithet_desc
    EffectsDescription Pope1_epithet_desc
    Epithet Pope14_epithet_desc
    Threshold 5

    Level Pope1_epithet_desc
    Description Pope1_epithet_desc
    EffectsDescription Pope1_epithet_desc
    Epithet Pope15_epithet_desc
    Threshold 6

    Level Pope1_epithet_desc
    Description Pope1_epithet_desc
    EffectsDescription Pope1_epithet_desc
    Epithet Pope16_epithet_desc
    Threshold 7

    Level Pope1_epithet_desc
    Description Pope1_epithet_desc
    EffectsDescription Pope1_epithet_desc
    Epithet Pope17_epithet_desc
    Threshold 8

    Level Pope1_epithet_desc
    Description Pope1_epithet_desc
    EffectsDescription Pope1_epithet_desc
    Epithet Pope18_epithet_desc
    Threshold 9

    ;------------------------------------------
    Trait PopeName3
    Characters family
    Hidden

    Level Pope1_epithet_desc
    Description Pope1_epithet_desc
    EffectsDescription Pope1_epithet_desc
    Epithet Pope19_epithet_desc
    Threshold 1

    Level Pope1_epithet_desc
    Description Pope1_epithet_desc
    EffectsDescription Pope1_epithet_desc
    Epithet Pope20_epithet_desc
    Threshold 2

    Level Pope1_epithet_desc
    Description Pope1_epithet_desc
    EffectsDescription Pope1_epithet_desc
    Epithet Pope21_epithet_desc
    Threshold 3

    Level Pope1_epithet_desc
    Description Pope1_epithet_desc
    EffectsDescription Pope1_epithet_desc
    Epithet Pope22_epithet_desc
    Threshold 4

    Level Pope1_epithet_desc
    Description Pope1_epithet_desc
    EffectsDescription Pope1_epithet_desc
    Epithet Pope23_epithet_desc
    Threshold 5

    Level Pope1_epithet_desc
    Description Pope1_epithet_desc
    EffectsDescription Pope1_epithet_desc
    Epithet Pope24_epithet_desc
    Threshold 6

    Level Pope1_epithet_desc
    Description Pope1_epithet_desc
    EffectsDescription Pope1_epithet_desc
    Epithet Pope25_epithet_desc
    Threshold 7

    Level Pope1_epithet_desc
    Description Pope1_epithet_desc
    EffectsDescription Pope1_epithet_desc
    Epithet Pope26_epithet_desc
    Threshold 8

    Level Pope1_epithet_desc
    Description Pope1_epithet_desc
    EffectsDescription Pope1_epithet_desc
    Epithet Pope27_epithet_desc
    Threshold 9
    And in export_vnvs.txt:
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    {Pope1_epithet_desc}I
    {Pope10_epithet_desc}X
    {Pope11_epithet_desc}XI
    {Pope12_epithet_desc}XII
    {Pope13_epithet_desc}XIII
    {Pope14_epithet_desc}XIV
    {Pope15_epithet_desc}XV
    {Pope16_epithet_desc}XVI
    {Pope17_epithet_desc}XVII
    {Pope18_epithet_desc}XVIII
    {Pope19_epithet_desc}XVIX
    {Pope2_epithet_desc}II
    {Pope20_epithet_desc}XX
    {Pope21_epithet_desc}XXI
    {Pope22_epithet_desc}XXII
    {Pope23_epithet_desc}XXIII
    {Pope24_epithet_desc}XXIV
    {Pope25_epithet_desc}XXV
    {Pope26_epithet_desc}XXVI
    {Pope27_epithet_desc}XXVII
    {Pope3_epithet_desc}III
    {Pope4_epithet_desc}IV
    {Pope5_epithet_desc}V
    {Pope6_epithet_desc}VI
    {Pope7_epithet_desc}VII
    {Pope8_epithet_desc}VIII
    {Pope9_epithet_desc}IX
    So, looks like the game assigns the papal numerals as epithets, not as names.

  4. #4
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    Default Re: Papal numerals

    In 6.3 Pope Numerals are trait-coded, not name coded. You cannot get Anthonius XII as a Papal General, but you can get an Anthonius XX as a Pope.

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