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    First off would like to say how much I've enjoyed playing your mod all through its development have been playing this since before there was even a version one and though I consider it a remarkable work ,I have reached the point where I no longer feel this is moving forward as far as game design goes.

    Why ,well its become apparent that the original design no longer is holding its own with all the subsequent scripting that has taken place ,one can still play the game yes ,but things are no longer making sense.When it comes to what version had the best game balance according to the original design I would have to say version 1,3 was the best.

    When version 2.0 was being worked on I had hopes that what you were really doing was doing a review of everything from the stats on all units ,Script review ,to things like is it really a good idea to have all elf units with the very good stamina attribute and quite frankly so much more.Basically my thoughts were if you did come up with a better basic design ,you could probably get rid of a bunch of unnecessary scripting and that no doubt would free up Germanicus to focus on more ingenious scripting of a more specific nature .TBH I truly believe you need to take 2 steps back to go 1 step forward.

    Am I saying this cause I'm disappointed or angry hell no what do I have to be upset about I've literally played this game through to conclusion about 250 - 300 times ,it was like an addiction to me that I greatly enjoyed ,got nothing to complain about here ,so thanks TATW team you gave me many months of enjoyment.

    BTW this is actually the first thing I have ever posted in these forums and I'm not even sure if this is the appropriate section to post it in ,but I'm posting it anyway as I truly believe the game needed it.

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    Default Re: Two Steps Back One Step Forward

    All well written but you have forgotten to point out what your point actually is. What change is it you like, and dislike?

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    Thank god this i total personal matter of taste. And thank god you still can download and play 1.3.
    And btw - there weren't major stat changes since 1.3 except for new units. Some precise examples
    would be nice though. But all in all this sounds like you need some retro-fit-kinda-mod.

    Anyway - this would definitely be of help when you post your experiences and suggestions (!!!) in
    the suggestions thread which is part of the basis for future releases.

    //

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    Default Re: Two Steps Back One Step Forward

    Be more constructive with your feedback

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    "2 steps back to go 1 step forward."

    So just delete month's worth of work and just start over huh? ...It just might be crazy enough to work!

    Seriously, Harbringe the TATW Team is still working on the mod. They released 2.0 because everyone was going nutz. I am POSITIVE that they have already accomplished much more since. Just enjoy what you have and wait for a new release. If you want to include your opinion in how it should be, then you need to be specific. Also, no matter how grateful you try to be in your post, it still reads a bit shallow to me.

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    Ehh.. I don`t know what you want to say. Please explain.




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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterBigAb View Post
    I don't know why, but this comment made me laugh *rolls on floor laugh*


    Harbringe:
    why do u think that the mod hasn't improved? what are the things that are lacking in yopur opinion?


    Imo: this mod is great!
    A Eruchîn,u-dano i faelas a hyn an uben tanatha le faelas.

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    Why fix what isn't broken? The stats and balance are good so why change it?

    And most of the work in 2.0 went to the fellowship campaign which is a never before seen kind of script for med2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Louis Lux View Post
    Why fix what isn't broken? The stats and balance are good so why change it?
    As soon as RC/RR is released again.




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    Yes, if he wants a new stat system he should play RC.

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    Default Re: Two Steps Back One Step Forward

    stop nagging. this is a better mod than most games. if you can not help the TATW team shut up.

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    It seems like he just stopped by, left a sack of ****. And then walked off agine.. Seeing hes activety is lacking.

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    I AM SO SICK AND TIRED OF THESE DAMN POINTLESS THREADS!11 AAHHAHHHHHH

    this used to be such a nice place....

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    Like when you were spamming nonstop.

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    I prefered that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Louis Lux View Post
    Like when you were spamming nonstop.
    ahh those were the days!
    well to be fair it didint happen that often, and when it did it was rather funny

    Quote Originally Posted by MasterBigAb View Post
    I prefered that
    and if i remember correctly a certain moderator, who wasnt a moderator back then used to join in every once in awhile

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    Eh! xD

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    I read one line.

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    Default Re: Two Steps Back One Step Forward

    Quote Originally Posted by Harbringe View Post
    First off would like to say how much I've enjoyed playing your mod all through its development have been playing this since before there was even a version one and though I consider it a remarkable work ,I have reached the point where I no longer feel this is moving forward as far as game design goes.

    Why ,well its become apparent that the original design no longer is holding its own with all the subsequent scripting that has taken place ,one can still play the game yes ,but things are no longer making sense.When it comes to what version had the best game balance according to the original design I would have to say version 1,3 was the best.

    When version 2.0 was being worked on I had hopes that what you were really doing was doing a review of everything from the stats on all units ,Script review ,to things like is it really a good idea to have all elf units with the very good stamina attribute and quite frankly so much more.Basically my thoughts were if you did come up with a better basic design ,you could probably get rid of a bunch of unnecessary scripting and that no doubt would free up Germanicus to focus on more ingenious scripting of a more specific nature .TBH I truly believe you need to take 2 steps back to go 1 step forward.

    Am I saying this cause I'm disappointed or angry hell no what do I have to be upset about I've literally played this game through to conclusion about 250 - 300 times ,it was like an addiction to me that I greatly enjoyed ,got nothing to complain about here ,so thanks TATW team you gave me many months of enjoyment.

    BTW this is actually the first thing I have ever posted in these forums and I'm not even sure if this is the appropriate section to post it in ,but I'm posting it anyway as I truly believe the game needed it.
    All I can ask is this: If you like 1.3 so much and if you don't like 2.0, why do you play 2.0 instead of 1.3? It really makes no sense to me what you are trying to say. Are you trying to say to get rid of the scripts? Rebalance the unit stats? Make the game more simple (not in the bad way, but the old-school way)? Please do make your point clear.

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