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    I haven't started any new topics i don't think so I'm not sure if this goes here, but this is a topic to talk about if you have any hidden strategies to defeat your enemy when heavily outnumbered. Here you can post just text about your strategy or screen shots about your heroic victory or just explaining the strategy, doesn't matter to me. For example one of my strategies:

    Faction:Silvan elves
    Enemy:Isengard
    Status:heavily outnumbered, i have 2 archer units one is a Sentinels of the woodland Realms and another Light elven archers.The enemy has 5 units of Uruk-Hai Infantry.
    Strategy:put one archer units (preferably not the one with the general or the captain) about 100-200 yards in front of other other unit both with skirmish mode ON. For awhile while the enemy was trying to reach my front lines i got free hits on them but once they came to close my light elven archers skirmished while my sentinel archers still fired, basically the strategy is a continuous rain of arrows on the heavy infantry who can't catch you. Note: this may not work vs skirmishers because they are light troops, the only way this works is if your units are faster than the enemies (at least that's what I've noticed so far).


    Some people may just call this common sense but the point is to inform people of helpful strategies that they may not know about.

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    ok....helpful strategies...well, dont die,thats one...ummmm if you have cavalry,a good idea is to run them right into those big pointy sticks in front of the archers. oh and if your enemy is dug in on a heavily fortified hilltop, your best bet is to do a full on frontal charge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by darthgaara View Post
    ok....helpful strategies...well, dont die,thats one...ummmm if you have cavalry,a good idea is to run them right into those big pointy sticks in front of the archers. oh and if your enemy is dug in on a heavily fortified hilltop, your best bet is to do a full on frontal charge.
    That's suicide, but I'm guessing that you know that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruanek View Post
    That's suicide, but I'm guessing that you know that.
    Sounds like he's been taking tips from the AI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darthgaara View Post
    ok....helpful strategies...well, dont die,thats one...ummmm if you have cavalry,a good idea is to run them right into those big pointy sticks in front of the archers. oh and if your enemy is dug in on a heavily fortified hilltop, your best bet is to do a full on frontal charge.
    Dude, Its Total War center, not /b/.

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    "No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country."
    General George S. Patton

    That is basically my strategy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harabec View Post
    "No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country."
    General George S. Patton

    That is basically my strategy.

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    1. I prefer armies that are heavily composed of archers. Typically a 3:1 Archer:Infantry ratio with x1-2 Generals Bodyguard Cavalry to harass the AI while archers do their job.

    2. Eriador (I love to play Eriador) also has a great position with a river flowing on its East/South borders. This means 80% of my battles are on bridge crossings.


    Typical losses are 5-10% with most casulties composing of the bodyguard units which replenish anyways (I always also make sure my odds are 0.5-1.0 for those great traits & heroic victories).

    My bridge battles follow the Sun Tzu strategy (taking position near a river):
    a. "When an advancing enemy crosses water do not meet him at the rivers edge. It is advantageous to allow half his force to cross and then strike";

    b. "If you wish to give battle, do not confront your enemy close to water. Take position on high ground."

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    ok you are playing silvans vs the isengarders (right? is that the gerund? XD) (nope? isenguardians?).

    your strengths of course are your awesome archers. your weakness is your number of units. and you fight isengard whose strength is his heavily armored infantry and those pesky wargs.

    my strategy relies on a core force of 2 or 3 generals (bodyguards), about 3 or 4 spearmen (normal ones, though if you have the higher tier ones they work just as well), and as many sentinels and light elven archers as possible.

    i usually try 2 different things:



    self explanatory. the typical melee-holds-line-while-archers-fire tactic. to me, spearmen are utterly expendable units who never fail to shine. sure they are flimsy and elven, but to me they are just more meat for the meatgrinder (angel meat? if your cafeteria food smells a lot like leaves and trees, you know what youre eating)



    in this one i like to take advantage of my elves' high foot speed and the fact that they dont get tired quickly against the slow as molasses uruk infantry. even scouts tend to not catch units. my spearmen wait far away from the frontline while the archers fire up the enemy infantry. if the enemy retreats i simply chase them down and kill them.
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    Default Re: Your Strategies

    this might be better placed in the guides section :

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    1. ~auto_win attacker/defender
    2. ???
    3. profit

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    1. I prefer armies that are heavily composed of archers. Typically a 3:1 Archer:Infantry ratio
    I hope you never say the campaign is too easy or archers are overpowered.
    It's only after you have lost everything, that you are free to do anything.

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    Agreed with the archer strategy, you just take way too many casaulties otherwise. And retraining is alot more expensive for you than it is for the AI... Best layout is archers, supported by basic infantry that you can recruit from most of your towns.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikail Mengsk View Post
    I hope you never say the campaign is too easy or archers are overpowered.
    AI is a game breaker & campaign is way too easy. Everyone knows Medieval II is nothing more then eye candy at best (& this is arguable). Those Gray companies seem to decimate huge orc armies in only a few volleys of arrows. From 250 to 50 and routing in 10 seconds lol. Poor bastards never had a chance crossing that bridge. Or perhaps its all those starting uber traits and ancillaries I give my Hero Generals (who usually lead my armies).
    Last edited by Stario; September 14, 2010 at 05:02 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kungfool View Post
    AI is a game breaker & campaign is way too easy. Everyone knows Medieval II is nothing more then eye candy at best (& this is arguable). Those Gray companies seem to decimate huge orc armies in only a few volleys of arrows. From 250 to 50 and routing in 10 seconds lol. Poor bastards never had a chance crossing that bridge. Or perhaps its all those starting uber traits and ancillaries I give my Hero Generals (who usually lead my armies).
    It's only after you have lost everything, that you are free to do anything.

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    Default Re: Your Strategies

    Like many have said...
    alot of archers,some basic spear units to hold the enemy and flank them with heavy cavelry and sometimes just scouts to rout them

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    So basically, instead of using a battle strategy, rely on set-ups which exploit the bad battle AI.
    ex. Send cavalry to destroy siege equipment, all archer armies, all horse archer armies, stakes inside gate, bridge battles, etc.

    None of which requires any skill or planning, just rely on the fact that the AI can not cope with such tactics and you can not lose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harabec View Post
    So basically, instead of using a battle strategy, rely on set-ups which exploit the bad battle AI.
    ex. Send cavalry to destroy siege equipment, all archer armies, all horse archer armies, stakes inside gate, bridge battles, etc.

    None of which requires any skill or planning, just rely on the fact that the AI can not cope with such tactics and you can not lose.
    I'm sure many of them plays on VH/VH and think their campaigns are more difficoult because of that.
    It's only after you have lost everything, that you are free to do anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harabec View Post
    So basically, instead of using a battle strategy, rely on set-ups which exploit the bad battle AI.
    ex. Send cavalry to destroy siege equipment, all archer armies, all horse archer armies, stakes inside gate, bridge battles, etc.

    None of which requires any skill or planning, just rely on the fact that the AI can not cope with such tactics and you can not lose.
    The difference between exploiting bad ai and a strategy is that you don't exactly know how the 'enemy' will respond to the strategy, and so you cover your bases. I don't really think most of us can be surprised by the ai anymore. Instead we grant the enemy a ton of money & troop bonuses, and then either race to the finish line (like sonsofromans), or try to fight with both hands tied behind our backs to make up some challenge. Personally I like to have a undersized balanced army and then pretend the enemy isn't completely predictable. When I stop feeling fooled by this tactic, I generally go do something else.

    Sooner or later I'll get some real internet and play some online battles. Then strategy will be more than calling my dollies a tea party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harabec View Post
    So basically, instead of using a battle strategy, rely on set-ups which exploit the bad battle AI.
    ex. Send cavalry to destroy siege equipment, all archer armies, all horse archer armies, stakes inside gate, bridge battles, etc.

    None of which requires any skill or planning, just rely on the fact that the AI can not cope with such tactics and you can not lose.

    true, but all archer, bridge or ford keeping, and using horseman to destory equipments and get out are perfect real-life tactic

    i can't find major flaw on AI tactic, but of course player are way better

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