Faction that gets Owned the most and quickest?

[Vice]

Didnt really see a topic like this around so I figured id make one...Basically what I am asking in your vanilla games when you play what factions do you guys see that gets basically wiped out really quick? For me Depending on who I am playing of course it usually seems to be in this order

1. The Selucid Empire - Man that AI just sucks and gets owned by all the Eastern kingdoms around it...and not to mention sometimes the Egyptians come up and own them as well

2. Macedon - If its not the greeks breathing down their necks it will certainly be the Brutii who just steam roll all over them...Interestingly enough in my current campaign as Numida...the Greeks have somehow held off the Brutii and own all of Greece and Macedon...

3. Gaul - All the poor gauls...When do they not get OWNED? They truly are the worst of the barbarian factions and the only chance they have to ever get anywhere is if your playing them!

So what factions get destroyed and owned in your campaigns the most?

Honorable Mentions (At least from what ive seen!)
-Carthage
-Numida
-Dacia

[Hopit]

TSE, easy

[ninjabanana]

Anything that's in the Romans' way. And TSE

[NotYetRegistered]

TSE, way to go CA.

[shikaka]

1. The Selucid Empire

2. Macedon

3. Gaul

Honorable Mentions (At least from what ive seen!)
-Carthage
-Numida
-Dacia

Fully wiped out?

Selucids: they miss at least 2/3 of their country because of the map. (gameplay wise it doesn't help either that they start with a small number of cr.ppy garrisons, without troops producing buildings)

Macedon: not common in my games. They get wiped out by the Brutii, but not early.

Gaul: not a major player anymore? common. They usually survive for long in Numantia and north-west gaul though

Carthage: they usually keep Cordoba and the Balearics for long






The earliest quitters for me are usually Selucids, Thrace and Germania (sometime Germania before thrace)

[herne_the _hunter]

Germania tends to be blitzkrieged by the Britons

[StealthEvo]

Any faction next to a faction with Chariots gets wiped out

[Hopit]

Any faction next to a faction with Chariots gets wiped out

actually, if egyptians and geuls changed place, gauls steam roll TSE like egypt did, and egypt gets owned bad

[PaxRomana]

I just knocked Thrace out quiet fast, though not as easy as the Greek cities.

[StealthEvo]

True shout...

[Blatta Optima Maxima]

TSE always dies in less than 50 turns. Always. As the AI.

[dacder]

TSE always dies in less than 50 turns. Always. As the AI.

once I was partia and for fun didnt pressure them they wiped out egypt.

[Vice]

Heh I think the fastest ive seen myself is Macedon getting wiped out by the year 259 B.C. Guess my games are weird...

[Lucarius]

TSE, wich is kinda sad...

[Magmaniac]

TSE and Germania always get torn to shreds. Carthage almost always gets owned pretty hard, though they usually survive with a colony or two in the west. Macedon eventually usually gets raped and left with just cyrene in my games, and greeks usually get destroyed except for maybe rhodes and pergamum.

[Arvedui01]

Numidia and TSE always get owned in my games. I've never even seen a Numidian city in person (like actually sent a diplomat over there and such,) until this campaign. Usually they're demolished by the Scipii or Carthage before I get anywhere near their territories. For me, Germania stays alive longest out of the barbarian factions, though Britannia sometimes swaps places and has conquests into Spain and Mediterranean.

[Punic Hoplite]

Biggest losers are the ones that either:
A- Touch a Roman province
B- Touch a province owned by Britannia or Egypt.

Otherwise I've seen Thrace eliminated first out of all the factions in my Carthaginian campaigns quite regularly. And I've seen TSE last till 225 BC in Seleucia before, and I've also seen the Greeks become a mighty kingdom in the Balkans and Asia Minor. But Gaul, unless I'm playing as the Julii and decide to give them a few turns to build up, are always among the first gone. Whenever I play, Carthage always lasts. Why? Because I make them last by giving them a settlement of mine very early on

[Lucarius]

i would love too see TSE wipe out Egypt
when playing a faction like Macedon, or Greeks.

[Blatta Optima Maxima]

It is strange, but why does cyrene often go to macedon?? That never happened, lol.

[Medkirtys]

It is strange, but why does cyrene often go to macedon?? That never happened, lol.

you mean macedon go to cyrene
to topic:
1. TSE, when i played first time, i wanted to unlock Seleucids, but i couldn't because they would get wiped out real quick. And then descr_strat.txt came along
2. Not always, but in 6 out of 10 they get killed by Britons
3. Numidia not destroyed but left to 1 - 2 settlement