CTD before battles

[AnthoniusII]

I believe that certain parts of the map are buged.
I have Total War Eras package and i tried to play battles in north itally.
The battle loads but causes problem and creats ctd.
I tried playing with Alex.exe or BI one but i have the same issue.
All water crossings in north Itally,the area arround Millan ,the area north east of Massilia create ctd when battle starts.
I some occasions when the icon just freeze (before the battle starts)and when i stop the game i see three lanchers of the game set up!!!!!
See pic bellow.
In every other part of Itally there is no problem....so its not my card's issue.
I play M2TW mods with much heavier animations and textures but i have no problem.

EDIT:
If you observ the right icon well ,you will notice the the map is revealed.
That was not made by me.
Because of the battle ctd problem i tried to start an other campaign.
Everytime the map was setup like this(with no fog of war).
Refernces show tha fog of war is active but....

[Brusilov]

Can you upload a save game prior to one of these CTDs?

I'm quite sure that when the game launches the launcher is no longer shown. So, to get three of them is very strange.

With the preferences file - there will be one in the Play_Rome\preferences folder. This is the one that is used when you play a Roman campaign. It's not the preferences folder in the 'game' folder.

[tone]

What settings are you using? Hopefully not hi-res vegetation?

[AnthoniusII]

This is my save.
The launcher's set up ,you can see them by the pic i posted.
The rest of the grafics set upsee attachment).
Now...The river crossing problem was a turn before that .
But even in this battle (save game) south of Milan i had the same problem.

[tone]

Which .exe is this?

[AnthoniusII]

BI but i had the same issue with Alex one also.
See the attachment picture with the 3 lanchers to see my set up).
I have a very strong pc and grafic card (i play TATW in 1600/900 with maximum details with no problem at all).

[apple]

Change the vegetation quality to low and untick the high res units in the launcher and try again.

[AnthoniusII]

Here is an other battle that works fine in other battlefield(sicily).
I will try that and inform you what will happen.
But even if it will have a success ,what is the point of having a wonderfull enviriment texture if you can not use it?

[apple]

Well the high quality vegetation from the launcher is only for extremely powerful Pc's

[AnthoniusII]

I have a quite strong system....
But turning (in the launcher's settings) vegetation in to default (i had it in high quality) the battle seams to start properly.
I will continue the experiments and i will inform you guys.
You have done a real good job and that is why i insist.
I want to joy even defeats and your mod seams the perfect one...

[tone]

Just checking your save.

Did you select high resolution vegetation in the launcher though?

[tone]

Here is the beginning of the battle that was causing you problems on loading. My conclusion here is that you're trying to run it with too high graphics settings for your computer. The vegetation is more demanding than vanilla particularly in forested areas, so you need to make adjustments for this. The only time though that I've had battles failing to load is if I've tried using the high resolution vegetation settings from the launcher. My computer crashes with those too, but Brusilov's runs like a dream even with them!

The problems with forests and the high resolution settings is that you've potentially got literally thousands of trees with maybe a thousand vertices each, so unless you're running really high spec dual graphics cards you're unlikely to be able to cope with them. Default is fine and what I've used for all my screenshots.

[apple]

Great. Yeah the high quality vegetation can kill even the strongest of PC's when used on woody maps. The only difference is that the trees outside the map in the far distance is being rendered in full 3D instead of being sprites.

@Tone. Yeah B's PC is a beast but even he got problems on some maps have I heard.

[tone]

sprites!

In the high resolution settings in the launcher, the sprite distance for vegetation is set to 2000m on high settings, 1000m on medium and 500m on low.
On default, these distances are 400m, 150m and zero.

So one possible alternative would be to play using high resolution settings in the launcher and low vegetation settings in game, which would give slightly better quality than default in the launcher and high in-game.

Maybe this is too confusing?

[apple]

Lol ops. Fixed.

[AnthoniusII]

Newest report.
Default vegetation in the launcher and still high in the game's options.
I run in to a trap in the same river crossing i had the problem before see attachment picture in the 1st post.
Now the battle lanched and played very nice with out a problem.
I lost but when a battle is joyfull who cares if he looses it!!
I will try more battles in the same regions i had problems and let you know.
Thanks for the help .

[apple]

Np mate glad it work now.
Enjoy.

Closed.