Re: Elven Factions Re-Development
Wow...its funny cuz i just made a thread in one of the sub forums recently on this very Subject...Located here. Whadda ya think?
NEW HIGH ELVEN UNITS
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Yesterday 04:08 PM
Everto
So I have compiled a large amount of ideas for new units for the High Elves, voiced them on the forums, and up until now, been only faced with conversation. I would like to begin this new thread so as to broaden the High Elven roster and look. I will begin with the High Elven Bodyguard.
(btw, I am happy to bring new ideas to light other than the Elves, but as of now these are the most concise proposals and most realistic additions I have come up with)
High Elven Bodyguard- (Elite Heavy Cavalry Bodyguard)
So as a few of you may now, I created a thread about this topic, presenting all my points and arguments to the community, and found that overwhelmingly the idea was supported. So, here it is…
I believe that, as of now, the current models for the bodyguard lack cohesiveness and harmony with the rest of the Eldar Army, and to reverse this, I propose that they be modeled on the Design of Gil-galad by Weta. The other designs can be used as "Mithlond Nobles", further giving the Elves a larger roster. I particularly am not crazy about them, but that’s not the issue; the most important thing is that the Elven Bodyguard looks good.
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Early design of gil-galad
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Gil-Galad Collar
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I believe that the bodyguard should be wearing an Eldar Helmet, and also the intricate shield of Gil-galad (which was actually used in the previous models as well).
Helmet
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Shield
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They should be dressed in Blue as in the design because that is the color combination that is most fitting the to leaders of the Eldar Army. Red would look cool, but I believe red should be reserved for Elite Units of a different nature, not for the bodyguards of the army.
Likewise, I also believe that the Elves should be mounted on all white steeds, showing their connection to purity and perfection. In the movies the Elves were always mounted on white horses, an obvious artistic design, and one that I find worked quite well. The Rider is only half of the actual design, the steed is the other half and should likewise be harmonious with the rider's design. A little head and neck armor would look nice too.
Something Like this, but more Middle Earth, Less Warhammer
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So, in Summary. High Elven Bodyguard based on the design of Gil-galad by WETA; wearing his intricate shield, an Eldar Helmet, lavish Blue Embroidery and Collar, and riding a White Horse.
Eldar Knight (Elite Heavy Cavalry)
This has been honestly one of the hardest ideas to compile. It's not as refined as I'd like it to be, but here it goes…
The Noldor have been fighting for Millenia. The battles that they took part in were massive, with some sieges lasting years upon years, and battles raging for months. They were the crème de la crème of their day and age, and I believe, still are. That is why they need a heavy cavalry unit. The Eldar Lancers are ok, but they are not what I'd consider a late game fighting unit. They die immediately, their horses have no Armor, and after the charge, are slaughtered… tear.
That I why I believe that the High Elves should have a unit of Eldar Knights, heavily armored horsemen who can steamroll through enemy ranks like a knife through butter. Make them extremely expensive, like where it hurts to purchase, but worth every Florin or w.e. the Elves use for currency. Stardust =P
First off, the Unit should be modeled on the look of the rest of the Eldar Army, but with a few variations. For instance, I believe they should wear the same Collar Design that Gil-galad wears, but not the same Cloak.
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The Cloak could be all black with Golden designs for instance, or perhaps purple. Shield wise its difficult to decide for me. If you give them shields, they'll be the same that the whole Eldar army has, including the Elven Bodyguard and Eldar Lancers. I think, to solve this, they could be shield-less, but have some bad-ass looking lances. Their charge and their armor will make up for their lack of a Shield.
If you do believe they should have a shield, it could be like the Gil-Galad design except embroidered in Purple or Black instead of Blue, to make them stand out.
CHECK OUT THIS SHIELD DESIGN
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Their Armor should also look heavier, with large shoulder plating and the like. Their helmets should probably also remain Eldar in Appearance, but perhaps with Feathers on either side of the Spike design on their heads.
Also, the steed should be one of two things, Either all white, or all black, and armored, heavily. The images below are just guidelines, and should not be copied all the way, but they give a good impression of Elven Horse Armor. The one from Warhammer is nice, but a little to warhammerish.
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The one from Oblivion is over the top, but the plate armor is something I believe should be used, like the plate armor of the Eldar footsoldiers.
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An idea from another artist, perhaps something can be used, such as the Helmet?
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One of these Helmets could be worn by the Knights, to create variation...
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So there's that idea, not as refined as I'd like…but it's a start.
These Next two Units would be Area of Recruitment Units for Imladris/Rivendell
Imladris Nobles (Heavy AOR Horse Archer Unit)
The Imladris Nobles would be something along the lines of the bad-asses of the Troll-shallows. Heavy Cavalry Horse Archers adorned in a Red Garb of the Eldar. Quintessentially, here's the idea, have them designed on the Gil-galad model, Collar, cape and Eldar Helmet, but instead of a shield and a spear, give them a bow and arrows. Also, their cape and collar design should be a deep crimson Red design, a representation of the struggle of Imladris to survive against the hordes of Orcs in the Misty Mountains. They're Elite, one of a kind.
I believe that the Sylvan Elves should have a heavy cavalry unit, but recruit able everywhere. The way these bad boys would differ is that they're only recruit able in Imladris, and due to that, are extremely elite, and rare. Furthermore, They're Nobles, not just Veteran Soldiers, so their armor and aesthetic look should be reflective of that. They've chosen to be horse archers so as not to engage the overwhelming forces of Orcs head on in an area where they have been historically outnumbered. Through better military tactics and their superior Elven Archery, they will weaken their enemy from a distance, and then come in for the Kill when they see the tide of battle changing. They should have a 13 Ranged attack, showing their Elite status in comparison to the other Eldar Archers.
Their steeds, well that’s up to the designers, but I believe that all White or Black would look best. (Black would look pretty tight with the red capes) Just head and neck armor for the horse, so that they're fast and agile, but still well armored.
So in summary Heavy Horse Archer wearing Eldar Armor, Red Cape and Collar, Eldar Helmet, Mounted on White or Black Steeds.
Imladris Guardians (Heavy AOR Elite Archer/Melee Unit)
This is a Unit I have been dreaming would come to existence one day. A heavy archer/melee unit, with both great ranged and close combat capabilities. Kaiser 1993 has already created a Sylvan Design of what I had in mind, that apart from the Armor and appearance, is exactly What I had in mind. So unlike the Imladris Nobles, these are Veteran Soldiers who have dedicated their life to the demise of evil and the protection of their Lord Elrond and Imladris. They are veterans of the wars of Beleriand, and have resurfaced in these grave times to go hunt the servants of Sauron once more.
They should be dressed in the Golden Armor of the Eldar, and like the Imladris Nobles, wear a Red Cape and also, unlike the Imladris Nobles, a Red hood covering their head. This design of the head should look like a compilation of these two designs.
The first is a design of the Shadow Warrior in Warhammer, and I think that the covered face fits in perfectly with the overall look of such a unit. If you all disagree, that’s fine, I'm not that adamant about the face being covered all the way, but I think a red piece of Cloth held down by a golden Helmet would look cool, very eerie and dangerous.
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This Helmet design is made by a guy from some Scandinavian country. Notice how the helmet piece sticks out. The current Eldar Helmets don't allow for a hood to be placed over the helmet because of that odd spike thing, which I love, but simply wouldn't fit in with this units look. So I believe that this HELMET design should be implemented for the Imladris Guardians.
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They should be composed, on Huge, of 75-101 units, and be devastating in ranged attack as well as melee. That’s why I believe that they should be also armed, like kaiser 1993's design, with the two handed Elven blades. So quintessentially, a rare late game breed of orc killing finesse .
Armor and sword should remain the same, simply a heavy Cloak and Hood with different Helmet.
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Another Possible Idea- (Replace White cape with Red, and include Hood, bingo)
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They would be, obviously, expensive, and extremely hard to come by, so perhaps a special building? I was thinking that perhaps both the Imladris Nobles and Guardians could be only purchased once "Elrond's House" or w.e. its called was upgraded once Imladris became a Large City.
The following are AOR units for Lindon (Mithlond, Forlond, Harlond, Elostirion)
Lindon Sentries (Low/Medium Tier Archer)
So this unit would be recruit able alongside the regular Light Elven Archers, except only in Lindon. Their ranged attack would be one point better than the Light Elven archers, as well as their attack. Their garb would be like that of the Sentries of the Sylvan Elves, albeit one thing. They would have an all white garb, except their cape and sash would be Blue, showing their more peaceful lifestyle and designs of Elves that have lived far from the troubles of the world. So basically… based on this unit-
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…except White Garb, and Blue Cloak and Sash.
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Like this model, except again, blue Cape, and blue sash.
Oh, and since they're Noldor, Black Hair.
Lindon Spearmen (Low/Medium Tier Spearmen)
These Guys would be identical to the Lindon Sentries, except they'd be armed with spears and a small shield. So again, White Garb, Blue cloak and sash. The Shield design I believe should be a strong Silver, and modeled of off the Troy Shield of the myrmidons-
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The reasoning behind this is that the current Shields of the Elven Infantry simply look to plain and Viking-ish. A little aesthetic touch would be all that is needed to make them look different. Their attack should be the same as that of the basic Elven Infantry, but their defense should be higher.
Alternate Shield Designs to The Myrmidon Shields...
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Here are my ideas… I'll try to refine them as I find more things to include. Please give your ideas and feedback, thanks for your time guys, and I hope that perhaps someone may give these guys a shot!
Originally Posted by Everto
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