Changing/Adding Starting Surnames

[RabidSheepLegion]

Anyone know how to change starting surnames?(last names) I want to rename all the starting English male surnames to Kirby (my last name lol!) If it's hardcoded though, that sucks expletive

Rep to whomever helps me with one that WORKS

[Ishan]

You have to first add your surname to proper text files. It's pretty easy.

To learn read this post of mine.

[RabidSheepLegion]

Hmmm.... okay, i've done that ishan, but how do I do it to the family tree? Like I want all the english family members at beginning of early english campaign to have the last name Kirby, not whatever it is right now. IE Changing french capet surname to crapet, how would I do that?

[Ishan]

For that u need to edit descr_strat.txt file in the imperial_campaign folder. SS uses 2 campaigns early and late so there will be two of them.

In that file go under the faction entry of england and edit the surname of the family members.
Do make a backup of the file before u go on editing it just in case u mess up the file.

[RabidSheepLegion]

ok so something like this?


character Henry Kirby, named character, male, leader, age 31, x 80, y 217
traits Factionleader 1 , MilitaryInclination 1 , Western_Edu 1, GoodCommander 1 , GoodAdministrator 2 , Fertile 3 , FathersLegacy 2 , ReligionStarter 1
army
unit NE Bodyguard exp 2 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Norman Cavalry exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Fyrd Spearmen exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Peasant Archers exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0

character Robert Kirby, named character, male, age 42, x 76, y 199
traits LoyaltyStarter 1 , NaturalMilitarySkill 1 , MilitaryInclination 1 , GoodCommander 2 , DiscontentGeneral 2 , ReligionStarter 1
army
unit NE Bodyguard exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Norman Cavalry exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Fyrd Spearmen exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Fyrd Spearmen exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Peasant Archers exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0

character Robin Kirby, general, male, age 20, x 68, y 213 ;Winchester
army
unit Fyrd Spearmen exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Fyrd Spearmen exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Peasant Archers exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0

character Gregory Kirby, named character, male, age 34, x 52, y 211
traits LoyaltyStarter 1 , NaturalMilitarySkill 1 , GovernorInclination 1 , Western_Edu 2 , GoodCommander 1 , InspiringSpeaker 1 , ReligionStarter 1
army
unit NE Bodyguard exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Fyrd Spearmen exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Fyrd Spearmen exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0

character Stephen Kirby, named character, male, age 55, x 69, y 226
traits LoyaltyStarter 1 , NaturalMilitarySkill 1 , GovernorInclination 1 , Western_Edu 1 , ReligiousActivity 2 , CrusaderHistory 1 , GoodCommander 1 , WifeIsEnglish 1 , MarriedAPrincess 1 , ReligionStarter 1
army
unit NE Bodyguard exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Fyrd Spearmen exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Fyrd Spearmen exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Peasant Archers exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0

character Robert Kirby, named character, male, heir, age 49, x 70, y 235 ;Caen
traits LoyaltyStarter 1 , Factionheir 1 , NaturalMilitarySkill 2 , MilitaryInclination 1 , CrusaderHistory 1 , FathersLegacy 2 , DiscontentGeneral 1 , Royal_Blood_English 1 , ReligionStarter 1
army
unit NE Bodyguard exp 2 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Norman Cavalry exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Norman Cavalry exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Fyrd Spearmen exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Fyrd Spearmen exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Peasant Archers exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0

character Giles, admiral, male, age 20, x 47, y 206
army
unit cog exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit cog exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0

character Richard, spy, male, age 20, x 77, y 230
traits NaturalSpySkill 1 , GoodSpy 1

character Samuel Blacke, merchant, male, age 25, x 80, y 212
traits NaturalMerchantSkill 1 , GoodMerchant 1

character Laurence Cranmer, diplomat, male, age 29, x 75, y 218
traits NaturalDiplomatSkill 1 , GoodDiplomat 1

character Anselm of_Canterbury, priest, male, age 40, x 61, y 224
traits NaturalPriestSkill 3 , StrongFaith 2 , Dogmatic 1 , PriestLevel 1

character_record William Kirby, male, age 73, dead 13, never_a_leader
character_record Matilda, female, age 61, dead 10, never_a_leader
character_record Rufus Kirby, male, age 44, dead 0, never_a_leader
character_record Adela, female, age 46, alive, never_a_leader
character_record Edyth, female, age 27, alive, never_a_leader
character_record Stephen Kirby, male, age 4, alive, never_a_leader

relative Henry Kirby, Edyth, end
relative William Kirby, Matilda, Robert Kirby, Adela, Rufus Kirby, Henry Kirby, end
relative Stephen Kirby, Adela, Stephen Kirby, end

[Fair Prince]

Yes, this should do the trick.

[RabidSheepLegion]

just tried right now, I click on start and it pushes me back to main menu

[Meneth]

just tried right now, I click on start and it pushes me back to main menu

That's when you take a look at the log.
Usually, it states pretty clearly what the problem is when you get kicked to the main menu.

[Fair Prince]

There are two Stephen Kirbys in your family tree, I suggest you should change the name of one of them.

[RabidSheepLegion]

There are two Stephen Kirbys in your family tree, I suggest you should change the name of one of them.

aren't there also two stephen de_blois in non-kirbied one also?

[Fair Prince]

aren't there also two stephen de_blois in non-kirbied one also?

Yes, there is, but the younger is just called Stephen in the family tree - and since his father has the 'de Blois' surname, he will inherit that.
Consequently, you can just remove the younger Stephen Kirby's surname instead of renaming him, it should work that way too.

[RabidSheepLegion]

ok just used name verifier and got this message

*** Parsing Files ***

Parsed descr_names.txt
Parsed names.txt, total names:7450
Parsed descr_names_lookup.txt, total names:7450
Parsed descr_strat.txt

*** Validating Names ***
[ERROR] faction 'slave' descr_strat.txt male character name 'Ruben' not in descr_names.txt

Total Warnings: 0
Total Errors: 1

[RabidSheepLegion]

OK cool, could you also perhaps help me with this Ruben character messing up my file too as I stated in #9?

[Meneth]

OK cool, could you also perhaps help me with this Ruben character messing up my file too as I stated in #9?

Just stick the name in descr_names.txt, should fix it.

[RabidSheepLegion]

Just stick the name in descr_names.txt, should fix it.

OK I fixed the problem with Ruben. I did first batch of slave names but that did not fix it, the polish(?) sounding ones. Then scrolled down the list and found it restarted alphabetically again so I just added about 2 or 3 more Rubens and it fixed it. Going to check if it works now as I also did change the two Stephen Kirbys (Taking Kirby out of 4 yr old) Here goes!

[RabidSheepLegion]

ugh, still kicking me to menu Gravity cat is not amused

*** Parsing Files ***

Parsed descr_names.txt
Parsed names.txt, total names:7450
Parsed descr_names_lookup.txt, total names:7450
Parsed descr_strat.txt

*** Validating Names ***

Total Warnings: 0
Total Errors: 0

eh?

[RabidSheepLegion]

Here are my files if somebody could help me point something out

[Ishan]

What are the new names u added?
And secondly give us ur SS log to track down the error coz it's a minor one.
U can find the log in the logs folder situated in the main directory of M2TW.

And thirdly don't post multiple times if nobody had posted after you then just edit the last post to make the thread less messy.

[RabidSheepLegion]

What are the new names u added?
And secondly give us ur SS log to track down the error coz it's a minor one.
U can find the log in the logs folder situated in the main directory of M2TW.

And thirdly don't post multiple times if nobody had posted after you then just edit the last post to make the thread less messy.

lol oops

Call it being desperate... I will edit this after to show results. Better?

oh i put in Kirby to english surnames and {Kirby}Kirby to one with the { }.... here are descr_strat thingy also

character Henry Kirby, named character, male, leader, age 31, x 80, y 217
traits Factionleader 1 , MilitaryInclination 1 , Western_Edu 1, GoodCommander 1 , GoodAdministrator 2 , Fertile 3 , FathersLegacy 2 , ReligionStarter 1
army
unit NE Bodyguard exp 2 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Norman Cavalry exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Fyrd Spearmen exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Peasant Archers exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0

character Robert, named character, male, age 42, x 76, y 199
traits LoyaltyStarter 1 , NaturalMilitarySkill 1 , MilitaryInclination 1 , GoodCommander 2 , DiscontentGeneral 2 , ReligionStarter 1
army
unit NE Bodyguard exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Norman Cavalry exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Fyrd Spearmen exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Fyrd Spearmen exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Peasant Archers exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0

character Robin Kirby, general, male, age 20, x 68, y 213 ;Winchester
army
unit Fyrd Spearmen exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Fyrd Spearmen exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Peasant Archers exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0

character Gregory Kirby, named character, male, age 34, x 52, y 211
traits LoyaltyStarter 1 , NaturalMilitarySkill 1 , GovernorInclination 1 , Western_Edu 2 , GoodCommander 1 , InspiringSpeaker 1 , ReligionStarter 1
army
unit NE Bodyguard exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Fyrd Spearmen exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Fyrd Spearmen exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0

character Stephen Kirby, named character, male, age 55, x 69, y 226
traits LoyaltyStarter 1 , NaturalMilitarySkill 1 , GovernorInclination 1 , Western_Edu 1 , ReligiousActivity 2 , CrusaderHistory 1 , GoodCommander 1 , WifeIsEnglish 1 , MarriedAPrincess 1 , ReligionStarter 1
army
unit NE Bodyguard exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Fyrd Spearmen exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Fyrd Spearmen exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Peasant Archers exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0

character Robert Kirby, named character, male, heir, age 49, x 70, y 235 ;Caen
traits LoyaltyStarter 1 , Factionheir 1 , NaturalMilitarySkill 2 , MilitaryInclination 1 , CrusaderHistory 1 , FathersLegacy 2 , DiscontentGeneral 1 , Royal_Blood_English 1 , ReligionStarter 1
army
unit NE Bodyguard exp 2 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Norman Cavalry exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Norman Cavalry exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Fyrd Spearmen exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Fyrd Spearmen exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Peasant Archers exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0

character Giles, admiral, male, age 20, x 47, y 206
army
unit cog exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit cog exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0

character Richard, spy, male, age 20, x 77, y 230
traits NaturalSpySkill 1 , GoodSpy 1

character Samuel Blacke, merchant, male, age 25, x 80, y 212
traits NaturalMerchantSkill 1 , GoodMerchant 1

character Laurence Cranmer, diplomat, male, age 29, x 75, y 218
traits NaturalDiplomatSkill 1 , GoodDiplomat 1

character Anselm of_Canterbury, priest, male, age 40, x 61, y 224
traits NaturalPriestSkill 3 , StrongFaith 2 , Dogmatic 1 , PriestLevel 1

character_record William Kirby, male, age 73, dead 13, never_a_leader
character_record Matilda, female, age 61, dead 10, never_a_leader
character_record Rufus Kirby, male, age 44, dead 0, never_a_leader
character_record Adela, female, age 46, alive, never_a_leader
character_record Edyth, female, age 27, alive, never_a_leader
character_record Stephen, male, age 4, alive, never_a_leader

relative Henry Kirby, Edyth, end
relative William Kirby, Matilda, Robert Kirby, Adela, Rufus Kirby, Henry Kirby, end
relative Stephen Kirby, Adela, Stephen, end

[Ishan]

Why are u not submitting the SS system log???
u have simply messed up the family tree so with the log we can see where u are wrong.