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    is there actually any built in punishment in the mod if I auto-resolve a battle?

    The goblin camp northeast of rivendell seems to crash my game if I try to play out a siege battle. at this point auto-resolve might be the only way to actually take it. I've tried twice to manually control the game but it crash both times already. I dare not try a third time.

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    No, there is no punishment. It's only not really balanced. But if you are far superior you will win in any case...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hermes Trismegistos View Post
    No, there is no punishment. It's only not really balanced. But if you are far superior you will win in any case...
    No!

    I have lost battles when i severly outnumber the foes, it is cr*p in this game. Sorry.




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    Default Re: about auto-resolve

    just play the battles yourself,you will face some defeats at start but then you will become veteran..
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannyalex View Post
    just play the battles yourself,you will face some defeats at start but then you will become veteran..
    Someone didn't read the opening post. Ya just go ahead nothing bad happens cept you might lose.

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    Default Re: about auto-resolve

    If there is a battle you know you will win, but just don't feel like fighting, open the console (depending on keyboard it can be different keys, for me it is ` (the key below Esc and above tab)) and type in "auto_win attacker" (without quotations) if you are attacking or "auto_win defender" (again without quotations) if you are the defender.

    A lot of members here feel this is cheating and will bash you for it, so be warned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harabec View Post
    "auto_win attacker" ... A lot of members here feel this is cheating and will bash you for it, so be warned.
    If it's a choice between cheating and CTD then I'll take cheating any day. I currently have Aragorn in Goblin Town besieged by a bucket load of irate goblins. Whether I sally or let them attack it's instant CTD. Thanks for the auto_win reminder... I thought it was campaign over.

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    Default Re: about auto-resolve

    A cheat that makes you lose?




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    I think the auto-resolve is broken as it mainly bases it's judgements on the number of men on each side. You can have an army composed of heavy cavalry and be fighting a similarly sized stack of snaga skirmishers (similar number of units, not number of men) and the auto-resolve will favour the snagas.

    Also, the orc factions naturally have MUCH larger unit sizes and so they end up destroying the good factions as computer vs computer battles are obviously always auto-resolved, which can be a bit annoying when all your allies are getting their arses pounded

    As for your question I'd say that the only punishment would be the higher proportion of losses you will sustain as the High Elves if you auto-resolve, as their units are about half the size of orc units

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    Default Re: about auto-resolve

    Quote Originally Posted by mattttb View Post
    I think the auto-resolve is broken as it mainly bases it's judgements on the number of men on each side. You can have an army composed of heavy cavalry and be fighting a similarly sized stack of snaga skirmishers (similar number of units, not number of men) and the auto-resolve will favour the snagas.

    Also, the orc factions naturally have MUCH larger unit sizes and so they end up destroying the good factions as computer vs computer battles are obviously always auto-resolved, which can be a bit annoying when all your allies are getting their arses pounded

    As for your question I'd say that the only punishment would be the higher proportion of losses you will sustain as the High Elves if you auto-resolve, as their units are about half the size of orc units
    Definitely not true. I had plenty of times where even in 5-3 ratio battle, the army with greater number actually even had worse odds for auto resolve.

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    Default Re: about auto-resolve

    Quote Originally Posted by mattttb View Post
    I think the auto-resolve is broken as it mainly bases it's judgements on the number of men on each side. You can have an army composed of heavy cavalry and be fighting a similarly sized stack of snaga skirmishers (similar number of units, not number of men) and the auto-resolve will favour the snagas.

    Totally wrong. Numbers matters but high armour rating and multiple HP units counts more. Dwarves owns in autoresolve against orcs.
    It's only after you have lost everything, that you are free to do anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikail Mengsk View Post
    Totally wrong. Numbers matters but high armour rating and multiple HP units counts more. Dwarves owns in autoresolve against orcs.
    Fair enough, I was only speculating really from some of my own experience - what you described makes sense

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    Default Re: about auto-resolve

    Autoresolve is among many things CA broke by design, hardcoded and never fixed. :-)

    Play the battles yourself.

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    All I can recommend is saving it ere you start the battle. If you don't like the auto resolve outcome, then just reload it 'till you do.


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    Yesterday I auto-resolved a battle against 2 Orc Looters, 1 Uruk Pikes and 2 Orc Bands. I had a full stack with some Arnor Pikemen, Heavy Archers, Men at Arms and Gandalf as commander (10 command, 10 fear). lost ~500 men. great!

    I love the auto-resolve
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    Default Re: about auto-resolve

    Auto-resolve is harsher on the player on Vh...

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    Hey don't worry guys, think of it this way: You're more clever than a computer!

    Perhaps that's a bit unlikely




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    Default Re: about auto-resolve

    Autoresolve is not always a good idea, I lost generals twice when autoresolved a battle which was heavily in my favor and I just did not want to play it. I won both times, but the price was Pyrrhic!
    But I understand you point as I ran into sieges that crushed all the time if played too.

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    Auto-resolve is a plot by the Jedi to destroy the Republic

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    seriously... the men who made the auto-resolve mechanics are evil and rat-like

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    Default Re: about auto-resolve

    Autoresolving, anyway, is good on sieges. You will lose not so many troops (obiously keeping in mind the importance of multiple HP and high-armour units) compared with a "played" siege battle. I found Dwarven autoresolve good in open battle, but absolutely overpowered in sieges.
    It's only after you have lost everything, that you are free to do anything.

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