bug, horse artillery with 152 men o_0

[riknap]

In a certain large battle using France vs Austria, I noticed two of my horse artillery (a regular and a guard) had 152 men, instead of the regular 18 or so (via DMUC 6.2 defaults, with Normal unit scale settings)


Is this a vanilla bug, or a result of broken DMUC scripts?



I would normally not complain, since the extra 130 men or so became useful when enemy cavalry charged, no thanks to the trickle-system of reinforcements (and doubly so if the "bug" also included more guns, but alas), but I'm interested in knowing if this would break my game.

[sir diman]

do u use aum also?

it happens some times especially when the unit is replenished in a foreign region (i suggest disband the unit to continue the campaign cause else u see its not worth playing the same campaign with unbalanced units

[Syntax]

I may just confirm that such happens suddenly - after a fight - I witnessed that several times on very different campaigns and different units!
We have looked into the files - but nothing had been found what could cause this strange issue!
Its real hard to find - as it is so random....

[waffleman_yay]

Yes!!! I have seen this too! in my russia campaign, i will try to get screens but its an older version of DMUC so maybe not... I've had 2 horse units with over 350 men each, a general with about 130, and many line infantry in the 500s! VERY helpful.

[Xwhyzed]

it is a quite common bug, I had my Maratha general with 220 men, that means 110 elephants

[waffleman_yay]

if you want to "fix" it, just have that unit take massive casualties, or better yet, use it intentionally dangerous scenarios

[♔Mandelus♔]

Well,
I had it in one of my armies with 4 units 24pdr howitzers .... the barrage I could make with them was WW 1 like and very funny

Also I had 2 units Dragoons which had not 70 but 160 men suddenly and this was a massive cavalry attack then ...

Finally, also it can happen to the AI, because I had at my AI enemy Poland insteed the normal 150 men lineinfantry suddenly a battle with unit of over 500 men at them ... any many with 300 men ... and this is lesser funny then.

[riknap]

Well, as long as it doesn't break the campaign save or similar, then the extra hundred men are useful in keeping the horse artillery regiment alive for more than a few seconds should enemy cavalry slip into them (should they be able to catch up if the horses sprint, that is).
Besides, it's useful for spontaneous role playing, thinking of them as "special elite" regiments or so.

As for backgrounds on these two horse-artillery regiments, I have a feeling I just auto-replenished them after I steamrolled Portugal with an auto-resolve (since the multi-army system of Empire is a massive headache; I managed to finish the specific battle where the screenie above was taken, a 6k unit 4-stack vs a 9k unit 4-stack, with a "valiant defeat" due to the 40-minute timer, inflicting 3k+ casualties while losing half that amount with only a few line regiment replacements arriving for my side).

[Jammerd]

Cept they aren't mounted, they form as infantry with the guns, and sometimes they stay back frozen when you re-limber. The only benefit seems to be as you take casualties, the next battle the guns are automatically max-crewed. So any casualties you do take seem to be deducted by the AI from the extra after (not during) the battle.

I've also never seen the CG do this bug, but IF it did it shouldn't issue them extra elephants, they should be afoot mixed with the eles... Does the above poster who claimed extra elephants have any screen shots of that?

[riknap]

Cept they aren't mounted, they form as infantry with the guns, and sometimes they stay back frozen when you re-limber. The only benefit seems to be as you take casualties, the next battle the guns are automatically max-crewed. So any casualties you do take seem to be deducted by the AI from the extra after (not during) the battle.

It's basically like Enemy at the Gates, except instead of one rifle for 2 men, it's several cannons for a hundred men.

[Tango12345]

If you got extra units with the mahratta general you WOULD DEFINITELY get extra elephants-they would not be on foot-only artillery works like that.