Can we achieve world peace?

[BlackPirate]

Ok i believe that we are still away from the point a writer proclaimed to be "the end of history"(a time were all regimes will have peaceful relations with their neighbours).Europe though is an example that shows that through cooperation and through solving local military conflicts we can reach a point were no wars are going to exist.Can a similar peace like the European peace reign upon turbulent places like Africa at some point?Or will we always invent excuses to start wars?

[Border Patrol]

No, we can't.

[hellheaven1987]

I would never allow world peace during the days I live.

[Babur]

I would never allow world peace during the days I live.

because China will grow larger?

[hellheaven1987]

because China will grow larger?

What does this have anything to do with China?

[Babur]

What does this have anything to do with China?

Building the Chinese Empire

well China is a rising power in the world so why doesn't it have anything to do with this?

[Babur]

Ok i believe that we are still away from the point a writer proclaimed to be "the end of history"(a time were all regimes will have peaceful relations with their neighbours)

you're referring to Francis Fukuyama right? well he was wrong

[alhoon]

OkCan a similar peace like the European peace reign upon turbulent places like Africa at some point?Or will we always invent excuses to start wars?

Who said the peace in Europe will last forever?!
PS. That's for the academy I think.

[Xanthippus of Sparta]

Probably not, realistically. At least anytime in the near future. But, that doesn't mean we should stop trying.

There's always a finite amount of land, resources, etc....the main things that wars are fought over.

Even in Europe, the continent has seen armed conflict only a decade ago. If you have a larger defination of what is "Europe", say, you include the Caucuses, it's been far more recent.

The good thing is, that we've went a long time without having a "big war" that is really destructive and involves many countries. Hundred Years War, Seven Years War, WWI, WWII...just a few examples.

When it comes to ending all armed conflict on earth, I tend to agree with Stephen Hawking who believes it would take an hostile presence from outside of earth to really unite the planet and end warring between mankind. But now I'm dipping into Sci-Fi, almost.

[Theseus1234]

As put in the TF2 Meet the Sniper video
As long as two people are on the planet, someone is gonna want someone dead.

[Hookah Smoking Caterpiller]

There is a simple root to world peace; we just need all humans to be vaporized.

[Oldgamer]

There is a simple root to world peace; we just need all humans to be vaporized.

Hookah, you weren't in the Discovery Channel HQ, last week, were you?

[Vítor Gaspar]

We'll never have peace. Period.

And Europe is no example at all. If the EU fails in the future be ready for some screwed up nationalistic rage throughout Europe and conflicts between old neighbors. Hopefully I'll never live to see that day (or maybe not...)

[Space Wolves]

No.

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Though if we must. Have ww3, kill a quarter of the population. Nuclear weapons and such thrown about, not all, but a few dozen at least. Worlds in a practical stone age. Have some super scientist, zefram cochrane develop a primitive warp engine. Fly it, and hope by luck we catch the attention of a alien race (vulcans) After that you'll generally get world peace going up from there

But really, i can't see world peace happening. Were dangerous violent beings, world peace can never be achieved. As long as were priming nukes, as long as money or resources is in play, world peace can hardly be achieved.

[hellheaven1987]

Don't listen to Space Wolves, he belongs to a superhuman organization that has the purpose to be warmachine.

The Space Wolves were one of the twenty Space Marine Legions, being led by their Primarch Leman Russ.

[Enemy of the State]

War really is a mystery. Whenever a politician declares war, people change completely. Morality no longer applies. What used to be the worst imaginable crime, is now public policy. The citizens of the enemy country are dehumanized. Millions die but there is no empathy. It's scary how easily people can be manipulated in to totally forgetting all morality and to see deaths as nothing more than "collateral damage". War is murder, it is the greatest evil on this earth.

[removeduser_4536284751384]

War really is a mystery. Whenever a politician declares war, people change completely. Morality no longer applies. What used to be the worst imaginable crime, is now public policy. The citizens of the enemy country are dehumanized. Millions die but there is no empathy. It's scary how easily people can be manipulated in to totally forgetting all morality and to see deaths as nothing more than "collateral damage". War is murder, it is the greatest evil on this earth.

which is why the only justifiable war in recent times was WWII.

the fact that there were two world wars is hilareous.

[Enemy of the State]

Anarchy regards the abolition of states as an ideal, which is what you proposed

I said war will exist as long as states exist. That's reality, you don't have to be an anarchist to accept that.

Not necessarily, a murder could occur for various reasons, different people would have differing ideas on the punishment imposed, some might agree with the murder which could cause further conflict.

Where do you see this happening? Because I certainly don't.

And the ideas of Anarchists would most likely cause a breakdown of law and order which would also lead to millions of deaths.

Do you have a crystal ball?

[Koelkastmagneet]

I said war will exist as long as states exist. That's reality, you don't have to be an anarchist to accept that.

If it's your wish to see all states everywhere destroyed, then you're an anarchist, no or yes?

Where do you see this happening? Because I certainly don't.

No, because the state takes care of the punishment, and the people accept it.

Do you have a crystal ball?

No, but I do have common sense.

[Wilder]

I said war will exist as long as states exist. That's reality, you don't have to be an anarchist to accept that.

Absolutely. Problem is though, warfare is a pandemic practice that predates the state, and exists in extraordinary levels in egalitarian non state societies. Actually death via war is astronomically more likely in most non state societies when measured on a per capita basis. So if we ever manage to transcend the state, the best we can hope for is no worse violence then today. Case in point: the Yanomami: about half of men die at the hands of the other, and many women do too.

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Tim, I have a lot of sympathy with your position on many issues, and your name is awesome, but this is sort of the classical example of libertarians desperately needing to take an intro to anthropology class. I don't care for governments either, but humans are quite capable of being awful without them.