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    the game is very good but 2 thing i thing should be better
    1 i dont thing that 0 turn recruitment is realistic

    2 there are too many units recruitable in some cities and this confuse me
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    1. Then use 1 turn recruitment, you are given the option via the launcher.

    2. How does it confuse you? Look at what they do, compare stats, cost and upkeep, and then recruit what is suitable for your current situation. Not really all that confusing.

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    1. Then use 1 turn recruitment, you are given the option via the launcher.

    2. How does it confuse you? Look at what they do, compare stats, cost and upkeep, and then recruit what is suitable for your current situation. Not really all that confusing.

    Yes you can use the 1 turn.
    That is in the beginning of the launcher.
    all these units are giving you an example of the Mercenaries in the area, to recruit from villages and remaining peoples that you conquered.
    Very realistic.
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    The second point is all a question of preferences...
    After havign played EB, I must admit that it is a big change to have so many units available for recruitement at start.
    I prefer to build structures and get units along with them but this will surely be a new experience

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    Diversity in equipment and fighting styles is to be expected, especially amongst different peoples, and as such I think this has been well represented in the game. Aside from the 'civilised' nations, warriors tended to use whatever they could get their hands on, and training was very much a 'do it yourself' venture.

    Also, from a game perspective, it gives the player a lot more options on what they can field, and how they can use their armies. It's also worth pointing out, that while a good number of units are available at the start, you cannot always afford them for some time.

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    Yes true,i have EB.
    but also remember once you expand past your borders the income will drop, and some units wouldn't be a good idea to have. Because of cost.
    But pillaging, and burning will make up the difference.

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    you didnt understand my point.having so many units it makes the game more confusing .you have many units.you said "2. How does it confuse you? Look at what they do, compare stats, cost and upkeep, and then recruit what is suitable for your current situation. Not really all that confusing." what is the point of having in one city 3 types of hoplite ,3 types of archers 3 types of thyreophoroi and many more units at the start of the game.the player will use the best unit and will leave the other. this is waste of space
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    you didnt understand my point.having so many units it makes the game more confusing .you have many units.what is the point of having in one city 3 types of hoplite ,3 types of archers 3 types of thyreophoroi and many more units at the start of the game.the player will use the best unit and will leave the other. this is waste of space
    When you expand too far, too fast, the different cost of those troops will factor in. You use cheaper troops when your economy tanks.

    Also, it's more accurate to depict the presence of all the various local troops that can be levied there. If you like diversity in your armies, then it's perfect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clone View Post
    you didnt understand my point.having so many units it makes the game more confusing .you have many units.you said "2. How does it confuse you? Look at what they do, compare stats, cost and upkeep, and then recruit what is suitable for your current situation. Not really all that confusing." what is the point of having in one city 3 types of hoplite ,3 types of archers 3 types of thyreophoroi and many more units at the start of the game.the player will use the best unit and will leave the other. this is waste of space
    Waste of space for what?
    For other units that will be placed in other cities that will then have too much units? And on and on. For the same part you could also say: whats the point in having so much different legions, theyre all the same.

    Oh and, Id also prefer that horses and infantry would be in separate buildings, or else a building just provides too much units at once. Well thats just my opinion.

    Btw: Some people like to play with balanced armies, not overpowered elite-only armies, so what youre saying is not always true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clone View Post
    you didnt understand my point.having so many units it makes the game more confusing .you have many units.you said "2. How does it confuse you? Look at what they do, compare stats, cost and upkeep, and then recruit what is suitable for your current situation. Not really all that confusing." what is the point of having in one city 3 types of hoplite ,3 types of archers 3 types of thyreophoroi and many more units at the start of the game.the player will use the best unit and will leave the other. this is waste of space
    The point? Simple really. D.I.V.E.R.S.I.T.Y.

    If you don't like it, you aren't being forced to play it. Plenty of other 'simpler' mods out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordmann View Post
    The point? Simple really. D.I.V.E.R.S.I.T.Y.

    If you don't like it, you aren't being forced to play it. Plenty of other 'simpler' mods out there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clone View Post
    the game is very good but 2 thing i thing should be better
    1 i dont thing that 0 turn recruitment is realistic

    2 there are too many units recruitable in some cities and this confuse me
    1. Most RS players love 0-turn for some reason so you'll find no friends here.
    As for the "realistic" part.. i'd say 0 turn is too quick, and 1 turn is too slow.

    2. Yes, they overdid it, simply avoid levy-type troops and siege engines.

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    I find the mod very disorganised but this has always been the case with RS and thats probably why I prefer RTR because it has a more professional look.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Dakier View Post
    I find the mod very disorganized but this has always been the case with RS and thats probably why I prefer RTR because it has a more professional look.
    Although I respect your opinion (and you are certainly right about RTR, which team and mod has been our friends from day one of RS), I would like a bit of elaboration on that.
    I suppose we are disorganized in the fact we have always lacked people to do documentation and stuff, or provide good publicity (until the end here). But I guess I am stumped about being told that RS2 isn't very professional?
    Is that what I'm reading?

    And please, I'm not trying to start a flame war, nor am I asking people to jump on this fellow because he made a comment! I'm just asking a question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dvk901 View Post
    Although I respect your opinion (and you are certainly right about RTR, which team and mod has been our friends from day one of RS), I would like a bit of elaboration on that.
    I suppose we are disorganized in the fact we have always lacked people to do documentation and stuff, or provide good publicity (until the end here). But I guess I am stumped about being told that RS2 isn't very professional?
    Is that what I'm reading?

    And please, I'm not trying to start a flame war, nor am I asking people to jump on this fellow because he made a comment! I'm just asking a question.
    maybe not my place to say so DVK, but let him talk. 99,9% of the people here love the mod and worship you guys for this mod,wich is the best RTW mod i ever seen. If he wants to make comments wich are based on air, hes a douchebag.
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    sorry some how i managed to post something in the wrong thread haha.....moderator please delete this

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    Default Re: some thing that i thing that needs improvement in the game

    + the AI is using all the different units.
    I love the fact that you are able to create real historical armies in RS 2.
    If you don't like all the units then don't use them.
    And you can play the game with 1-turn recruitments, just select it in the launcher.
    And no 0-turn is not unrealistic. It's far more realistic than 1-turn.
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    0 turn in my books is VERY realistic... Especially for the barbarians
    It means you can raise armies quickly but not that quickly if you think about it... 1 turn = 6 months... so if empires cant get troops together in that space of time.. well whats the point in them even trying?
    The way I look at it is these troops that you recruit are already trained soldiers and all they need is equipment and to be organised in the legions etc so really I think its realistic compared to 1 turn where some campanian Calvary take 2 turns? or so to be trained (I dont know they actually timings for 1 turn as I havent played it on RSII) The joys 0 turn is you get big battles which are great!

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    Default Re: some thing that i thing that needs improvement in the game

    Well, some people may prefer one type of unit over another similar type because they like the clours or the shield or whatever.

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    LAWLZ! All this recruiting and units stuff is killing me. But I agree. 0 turn is more realistic (just look at how much time passes between turns - you tellin' me that in Vanilla R:TW only one (1) Hastati unit could be levied every six months!!??).

    As for different types, well I admit, I didn't like Medieval 'cause I'm unfamiliar with the units, types, and names. I sympathize with clone on this point. But thankfully, as a fan of Classical history I'm right at home here. and I'm loving the customizabilty (is that a word) of the mod.
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