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    The other day I was playing a battle against the Iroquois the other day as the British I had an army that was drawing near to the end of its campaign in north America so they were very experienced professional killers. I was fighting the natives in there last settlement on the continent I was outnumber but had superior experience and fire power. The battle dwindled on until there was one last unit of bow men hanging at the back I sent my dragoons to engage them but as soon as the charge hit home 3 units of native warriors appeared and surrounded my dragoons I decided to withdrew them with only 60 or so remaining of about 120. I was bogged down and outnumbered so I decided to order my howitzers to open fire with quicklime shot as I watched my brave men choke and die next to there comrades who were fleeing for there lives the remaining warriors broke off to engage my main battle line 5 or so dragoons were retreating towards my line as my howitzers lobbed exploding shells into the throng of desperate men my skirmishers and men of the line opened fire they cut down my fleeing dragoons and the native warriors the battle was won as they fruitlessly clashed against my grenadiers but I was hit by a pang of guilt when I had seen that I had killed 4000 of the enemy whilst only loosing 500 men.

    My question is do you ever feel guilt or imagine the individual soldiers emotions during the battle or do you see yourself defeating the ai that has plagued this series of games since the beginning.

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    Of course not! It's not real - merely an admittedly enjoyable (when it's no crashing) RTS game.
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    Well they're not real people, so I never feel guilty about the deaths of interactive animations on the screen.
    Meh.

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    Maybe its just my over active animation...

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    For those disgusting Barbarians? I would never feel sorry for those sods - Even if it was real. They did no good for us, and therefore - had to be exterminated. Think of how many innocent families those sick creatures massacred, and scalped.

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    Nah, don't worry, those people are just very... sober and unimaginative! Myself I don't feel anything for the dead soldiers because hey -- They're just peasants, low-life scum and other unwanted outcasts of society. As for the cavalry, they were rich, stuck-up . And they died for their country!

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    I sometimes do for the ones that squeal around on the ground instead of dropping dead like the rest.
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    Never heard of war guilt in game, but I have had my populace tire of war and start being restless until I end it.

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    When I see the mounds of corses where he battle lines clashed at the end of the battles I realise just how bad these battles were. Crushing the enemy is a more humane act really, if it was a more even battle more men would have died.

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    Considering the fact that there is no blood and not enough smoke, and the unit size and the 20 unit limit cannot represent an actual battle, I don't feel any remorse for killing a lot of men. But sometimes the sight is gruesome enough for me to oppose the war in Afghanistan.
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    With darth mod the austrians can have 400 people in each line unit. and the smoke is great too.

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    No. But in past games, like RTW and MedII (with mods) I often have feeling of ''Christ, that's alot of them dead. Surely their nation is broken by this.'' after I killed thousands of, say, Gauls. But then I realize that war weariness and manpower aren't reflected at all in those games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Croccer View Post
    No. But in past games, like RTW and MedII (with mods) I often have feeling of ''Christ, that's alot of them dead. Surely their nation is broken by this.'' after I killed thousands of, say, Gauls. But then I realize that war weariness and manpower aren't reflected at all in those games.
    So true. In my campaign i have killed half a million enemy soldiers in India (As Britain in Darthmod), and there is no end in sight (Because i'm not attacking their cities).
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    I think that means they don't want you in India.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulysses S. Grant View Post
    So true. In my campaign i have killed half a million enemy soldiers in India (As Britain in Darthmod), and there is no end in sight (Because i'm not attacking their cities).
    I thought half a million indian were born every second !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyxos View Post
    I thought half a million indian were born every second !
    Not sure about that in 1750.
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    no way! My troops are people too! They have families as well. Simply put.....te more I kill of their's the less I lose of mine. I'm usually horrified if I lose 60% of any of my regiments(I'm one of those guys that name each regiment except militia/mobs/artillery), funny that cause in medieval or rome(except for spartans and sacred band) I liked sending my men to their deaths.

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    Maybe not for a game, but if this was real, yeah, I would feel pretty bad. Sometimes they just go their slaughter, in the thousands, and they die in droves, against overwelming volleys of shot and grape. Sometimes, I wonder, how horrible a death it would be, to be sitting in a house, suddeny hear a mortar, the 'BOOM!" its all over. Or to be shredded to peices by canister. And they was people die just become more and more advanced. Its a sad thing to remorse on really.




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    Dude. Its their fault for not joining the Franco-Anglo-Spanish empire.

    I only feel bad when the enemy decides to march up to my cannons. Everything else they can at least shoot back at, but canister shot and shrapnal shot...ugh. And once you realize that most of those men are probably wounded, but will bleed out before they can be helped...ugh.

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    I sometimes take joy in imagining this as a real world, with real lives.(Hence the AAR) I find it fun to let my imagination run wild on the millions of scenarios that encompass the Spanish Nation and its Armies engaged in Total War.

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