What SS Changes...

**Zigama** · September 03, 2010, 09:19 PM

Hello everyone, I'm new to SS (although I have played TA) and want to get a general overview of what this mod adds to the total war experience. Looking on the 6.3 download thread, it mainly just lists the changes from previous versions, mostly bugfixes.

Also, whats the difference between early and late campaigns (I know the factions change, but what else?)

Thanks in advance for the info

**dominion** · September 03, 2010, 09:24 PM

Well late let you start more advanced. Also mongols invade. Very hard campaign especially playing with romans, khwarezm or crusader states.
you have complete new unitrooster for romans(CBUR), new events such as bulgarian uprising in early campaign....and many more
Just read some topics...and play the game

**meese** · September 03, 2010, 09:45 PM

Huh..well, there's a lot frankly

But generally, the americas were removed in favour of the east, more factions, reworked map (provinces changed), new units....a lot. SS is just an entire overhaul soooo it'll take too long to list them.

I suggest you just play it, as dominion said

**delra** · September 04, 2010, 02:18 AM

SS as I read about the changes feels... overmodded.

**Navajo Joe** · September 04, 2010, 02:36 AM

Originally Posted by delra

SS as I read about the changes feels... overmodded.

Delra,

Would you mind to elaborate as to what you feel as been over modded?

On looking at your comment, this could mean many different things, which at this point I don't really want to guess at

**Gorrrrrn** · September 04, 2010, 04:04 AM

overmodded.

and more on the way!

**SirRobin** · September 04, 2010, 05:30 AM

Also I would be very interested in a total list of all the changes from vanilla -> 6.3, but I doubt anyone has made one ?

**dominion** · September 04, 2010, 05:41 AM

Originally Posted by SirRobin

Also I would be very interested in a total list of all the changes from vanilla -> 6.3, but I doubt anyone has made one ?

-Complete new map
-complete new units
-new factions
-new regions
-and submods are in development....so wouldn't you say everyting changes with the exception of hardcodded things?

**newt** · September 04, 2010, 06:01 AM

Originally Posted by dominion

-Complete new map
-complete new units
-new factions
-new regions
-and submods are in development....so wouldn't you say everyting changes with the exception of hardcodded things?

I would say that sums it up well.

add to it:
-new traits
-new ancillaries
-building characteristics changed.....etc.

It's a complete overhaul.

**dominion** · September 04, 2010, 06:03 AM

Originally Posted by newt

I would say that sums it up well.

add to it:
-new traits
-new ancillaries
-building characteristics changed.....etc.

It's a complete overhaul.

But only very recently though....lol

**newt** · September 04, 2010, 06:54 AM

Originally Posted by dominion

But only very recently though....lol

These things have always been changed, they've just evolved a bit from the last version.

**bɑne** · September 04, 2010, 05:52 AM

Originally Posted by SirRobin

Also I would be very interested in a total list of all the changes from vanilla -> 6.3, but I doubt anyone has made one ?

How detailed should that be? You would be in for a wall of text.

For everyone wondering, it can't hurt to start by reading the past versions release posts/notes.
As in v3->v4->v5->v6->Current.

**meese** · September 04, 2010, 05:32 AM

Frankly I don't think anybody knows them all.

**urrah** · September 04, 2010, 06:11 AM

Not to mention the new ai, which for me would be reason enough to play SS.

Also can't stress enough how good the new strat map and units look.

**Zigama** · September 04, 2010, 04:25 PM

question about ancillaries:

say you have a general with a title ancillary (like Duke of York) and they die. Will their heir get the trait, or will it disappear? Also wondering if the same thing happens with crowns and "King of _" ancillaries...

**MonkeyChief** · September 04, 2010, 04:34 PM

Originally Posted by Zigama

question about ancillaries:

say you have a general with a title ancillary (like Duke of York) and they die. Will their heir get the trait, or will it disappear? Also wondering if the same thing happens with crowns and "King of _" ancillaries...

I'm almost certain its the next general/family memeber who stays in that settlement for a turn.

**Meneth** · September 04, 2010, 04:38 PM

Originally Posted by Zigama

question about ancillaries:

say you have a general with a title ancillary (like Duke of York) and they die. Will their heir get the trait, or will it disappear? Also wondering if the same thing happens with crowns and "King of _" ancillaries...

Once an ancillary like that disappears, it can be gained by another character.
So when your king dies, the new king can gain the "King of x" ancillary, but if you no longer fulfill the requirements (due to having lost one or more of the settlements required), he won't get it ofc. But AFAIK, it won't disappear either if you stop fulfilling the requirements, only when your king dies.

**Silhouette** · September 05, 2010, 02:34 AM

Release Information
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=377824

Overview with links, provided by the illustrious Darth Kitty von Bodemloze
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=357303

To save someone else the trouble i'm going to say it, "Use the search function!"
Enjoy the mod! (If you deem it worthy of your time

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