USA: product of too much freedom

[ExcaliburFIN]

Yes as I say I think USA is product of too much freedom. So when you have so much freedom you dont have good heathcare for EVERYONE. And if you lose your work you lose everything. And everybody dont have even four walls and roof. You dont no more care about other peapole. I prove it majority of USA peapole dont care is that YOU ACCEPT TORTURE!

And 60% of all worlds collyte is yours.

You said u go free Iraq. Have you never thinked that everybody dont like your ideals? Maybe everybody dont want them! You try to make everybody same as you are. I some way I understand terrorist ho strike to USA. You have attacked to their lands, and kidnapped egyptians.

I see that we are not perfect either, but we dont have terrorist attacks and not many peapole hate us. AND WE DONT ATTACK EVERYBODY, WE DONT COLLYTE even 0,1% of world collyte!

[Ummon]

You cannot have too much freedom, but you can surely use freedom in the wrong way. Could you please edit this post a little, it isn't very easy to understand what you mean. And please, avoid caps as well, use boldface/underline if possible.

[Lord Kal]

Freedom is always seen as a good thing but it often extends to the freedom to walk all over others, freedom to ignore everyone but yourself, freedom to restrict other people's freedom...

And as for freedom in Iraq, loads of areas have been handed over to extreme muslims that are worse than Saddam - areas that are supposedly US-controlled have people running them who shoot women in the street for wearing Jeans. They didn't even ha that under Saddam.

[ajimenez3]

What the heck is "COLLYTE"?
Last time I checked the USA is not the only place in the world that has homeless people. So what is the point of the post?


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[Erik]

Freedom is always seen as a good thing but it often extends to the freedom to walk all over others, freedom to ignore everyone but yourself, freedom to restrict other people's freedom...

Here I fully agree. (you took that from the Fascism thread, didn't you )

Freedom in a laissez-faire/liberetarian view is IMO a bad freedom.
This freedom lets the strong abuse the weak and only leads to opression of the masses.

True freedom is something you need to create and regulate.

[ExcaliburFIN]

Yes you are not only place how haev homeless but your goverment tells to some goverment that is their fault there are poor and homeless. They should check their own country.

I agree with you Ummon. Mybe it is not freedom, maybe it is that you march againt other countries under the flag of freedom. So goverment/some part of USA peapole is using it wrong.

[Prince Kassad]

Yes you are not only place how haev homeless but your goverment tells to some goverment that is their fault there are poor and homeless. They should check their own country.

Its true, we have over two hundred million homeless people in the USA - you could tell if you lived here.

I agree with you Ummon. Mybe it is not freedom, maybe it is that you march againt other countries under the flag of freedom. So goverment/some part of USA peapole is using it wrong.

Yes - its our foreign policy that is to blame. We should stop all aid to Africa - they don't need it anyway. AIDs is solving the overpopulation problem for them anyway.

[Ummon]

Yes - its our foreign policy that is to blame. We should stop all aid to Africa - they don't need it anyway. AIDs is solving the overpopulation problem for them anyway.

This for example, is surely not a Christian thought. It doesn't take being a Christian to understand it.

[Rush Limbaugh]

Yes as I say I think USA is product of too much freedom. So when you have so much freedom you dont have good heathcare for EVERYONE. And if you lose your work you lose everything. And everybody dont have even four walls and roof. You dont no more care about other peapole. I prove it majority of USA peapole dont care is that YOU ACCEPT TORTURE!

And 60% of all worlds collyte is yours.

You said u go free Iraq. Have you never thinked that everybody dont like your ideals? Maybe everybody dont want them! You try to make everybody same as you are. I some way I understand terrorist ho strike to USA. You have attacked to their lands, and kidnapped egyptians.

I see that we are not perfect either, but we dont have terrorist attacks and not many peapole hate us. AND WE DONT ATTACK EVERYBODY, WE DONT COLLYTE even 0,1% of world collyte!

Someones in need of a serious reality check.

So when you have so much freedom you dont have good heathcare for EVERYONE

How does our havng too much freedom cause this. Besides healthcare is available for everyone here whether you can pay or not.

And if you lose your work you lose everything.

Again not so. We have unemployment insurance and welfare.

And everybody dont have even four walls and roof.

Almost all that want it do. For the most part those that are homeless choose to be that way. Their mostly the insane who used to be housed in state mental institutions. But the libs said that wasnt right and that they should be set free. So in this manner you would be correct.

You dont no more care about other peapole

Pretty broad statement dont you think. Also the US gives more aid than any other nation.

YOU ACCEPT TORTURE!

News to me.

I some way I understand terrorist ho strike to USA. You have attacked to their lands, and kidnapped egyptians.

They attacked us first. What Egyptians did we kidnap?

Stop listening to all the anti US propoganda and come back to earth.

[Prince Kassad]

This for example, is surely not a Christian thought. It doesn't take being a Christian to understand it.

Nah, I was just pulling his leg.

My statement about the "200 million homeless" (We only have 300 million people) should have tipped you off!

[ExcaliburFIN]

I disint say you should stop helping africa. Or did I? I sayd you should stop making more wars for oil

[ExcaliburFIN]

Hmm.. So in there you dont have statement from Italian police? HAHA Italian polices have even asked to you give some CIA agents to em to go trial for that kidnapping. They catch one agent.

[John I Tzimisces]

Hmm.. So in there you dont have statement from Italian police? HAHA Italian polices have even asked to you give some CIA agents to em to go trial for that kidnapping. They catch one agent.

If you learned one thing about how evil and vile middle eastern government have been in the past 100 years, and this i do not exaggerate, would you still hold your niave views?

[Ummon]

You don't understand: it is not a good joke either. The USA is infact (just like all western countries) not doing enough to help the third world, and this is one of the problems today.

I say this despite being a strong supporter of self-reliance.

Hmm.. So in there you dont have statement from Italian police? HAHA Italian polices have even asked to you give some CIA agents to em to go trial for that kidnapping. They catch one agent.

Italian police has made no statements on CIA, I assure you. Italian leftist magistrates may, though.

[Prince Kassad]

You don't understand: it is not a good joke either. The USA is infact (just like all western countries) not doing enough to help the third world, and this is one of the problems today.

No, I just think their whole idea is silly - its somehow "freedom's fault" that our society has problems.

[Ummon]

There cannot be too much freedom as I said. Given that my freedom ends where yours begins.

[Erik]

There cannot be too much freedom as I said. Given that my freedom ends where yours begins.

And that's the problem with the neo-liberal idea about freedom: it doesn't end there.

America doesn't accept torture. Some of the asses over in Iraq did torture some guys, but then again, they were pretty lame.

Guatanomo bay, secret CIA chambers, all the evidence point to torture.

America doesn't openly accept it but most Americans turn the other way and allow it to happen.
The "if we don't know it doesn't concern us" mentality...same as the nazi's had about the concentration camps.

[Justinian]

Before you claim America is evil and offers no aid, no other country offers as much aid as the US. Everyone yells about how horrible and evil we are, but when disaster strikes....

"Hey, where's the US?! Why aren't they helping us!? You bastards!"

Then the US comes and helps.

So when you have so much freedom you dont have good heathcare for EVERYONE.

You don't have to pay for healthcare (well, someone will pay later). True our healthcare system isn't as nice to poor people as you would like, but it's far more effecient.

And if you lose your work you lose everything.

I assume you've never heard of welfare.

And everybody dont have even four walls and roof.

You dont no more care about other peapole. I prove it majority of USA peapole dont care is that YOU ACCEPT TORTURE!

Yeah, because Bush is a real reflection of a majority of the people of the US.

When America becomes the only country with homeless people and people who can't get healthcare, start complaining.

PS. What the hell is collyte?

[Cwn]

Although I'm normally pretty ignorant, but I think this is far beyond what I usually proclaim.

America doesn't accept torture. Some of the asses over in Iraq did torture some guys, but then again, they were pretty lame.

[RusskiSoldat]

You guys need to get the times.
Screaming WAR4OIL like an idiot is sooo 2004