Muslim factions in Version 4

**Torvus** · September 02, 2010, 03:39 PM

I would definitely like to see the Barka updated. I would like to see the Mamluks look more like the elite soldiers they're supposed to be. Maybe giving them some of those cool facemasks from the Vanilla Russians. The Barka seem like the most Imperialist muslim faction to me, and I think their roster should reflect that. Their units should provide some sense of unity.

As for the Vashta, their soldiers may be professional, but they remind me more of a nomadic horde under a warlord than an actual "modern" nation.

and the Tahar just need to stop being orange. it's obnoxious.

**Agamemnon** · September 02, 2010, 03:52 PM

I agree about the imperialistic thing (though I disagree on Vashta), but why the Russian facemasks? That doesn't make sense.

**Torvus** · September 03, 2010, 10:33 AM

Originally Posted by Agammemnon

I agree about the imperialistic thing (though I disagree on Vashta), but why the Russian facemasks? That doesn't make sense.

Because the facemasks are cool and would be a scary thing for the enemy to look at. plus the Mamluks are slave soldiers. I'd think their masters would want them to be "faceless". I believe those facemasks were originally a Persian invention anyway (I don't know that for certain, but I thought I read something about Sassanid Immortals wearing facemasks)

the facemask would go really well with the Immortals all the Muslim factions get, too.

**Daraunon** · September 02, 2010, 06:47 PM

Mmm actually the Barka are the most conservative,as their only goal is to drive Christians out of Syrianna...as for the Vashta:they may have Otjuk and other ZOR troops,but their Yani Ceri are definitely professionals. Don't mind the silly skins by Creative Assembly...

The orange Tahar are hopefully going to be revised sooner or later...

**Torvus** · September 03, 2010, 10:59 AM

Originally Posted by Daraunon

Mmm actually the Barka are the most conservative,as their only goal is to drive Christians out of Syrianna.

I guess what I meant by "imperialist" was that they had something of an established empire. Their units should reflect their established traditions, eg heavier armor, ceremonial facemasks and the like. plus they're close to the Greco and the Romuli and were probably influenced by them.

**midterm360** · September 02, 2010, 10:33 PM

If you take a close look at the tahar they actually have a very cool unit roster, elephants for generals, the immortals which are great heavy inf. and good gun infantry. All in all a very solid use of units, its jsut I can never seem to get myself into it.

**Daraunon** · September 02, 2010, 10:39 PM

I agree the Tahar have a good unit roster already,now if only the AI started using some more heavy infantry and less elephants during sieges...

**TheFirstONeill** · September 03, 2010, 10:54 AM

Moved these posts to their own thread rather than spamming Massive_attacks sub mod thread, since the discussion is rather larger than reskins.

**Massive_attack** · September 03, 2010, 11:13 AM

Oh thats where all of these went, I was wondering what happened to them

**TheFirstONeill** · September 03, 2010, 11:17 AM

I was trying to aviod a spamming of your sub mods thread .

**Massive_attack** · September 03, 2010, 11:56 AM

Its fine TFON, just a little dissorienting thats all.

Im gona keep my eye on this thread, im focusing on the muslims next, and id like to hear what the people want.

**TheFirstONeill** · September 03, 2010, 12:06 PM

I like to keep the place tidy

**Daraunon** · September 03, 2010, 03:58 PM

Hehe well done TFON,don't worry we'll manage.
Anyway,mask may be good for Immortals(but don't they have a faceplate already?),but I'd leave them the only unit having them,it sort of makes them stand out. Immortals were supposed to be treated almost as more than human,hence their name and the tradition to always have 10000 of them. I know this is Thera,not Earth,but it's a nice piece of folklore nonetheless.