Newly recruited priest... 9 piety only!

[SoulBlade]

In my newly started Byzantine campaign my first priest decided to join the other side (meaning he turned into a heretic) so I didn't have any priests nearby and recruited one in Constantinople.
Next turn this is the result:

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And chances to burn the traitor...

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It's a miracle! What's your opinion? ;D And post a pic if you had similar experiences.

[barcamartin]

Since he got the trait Patriarch, I'm guessing he was either the first priest recruited in Constantinople, or the first one after the former Patriarch died, or the first one recruited after the former Patriarch became the heretic? I am just guessing, no idea how it works. Pretty awesome guy anyway!

[SoulBlade]

Yeah, I guess he is the first one recruited after the former patriarch turned into heretic. but even without being the Patriach, he would have 7 starting piety, so this is also a lot! ;D

[barcamartin]

It is indeed. How high level is your church? Orthodox Cathedral? I guess that might have something to do with the "Orthodox Instruction"-trait, aswell as perhaps the "Chosen One". Also, you seem to have a Theologians Guild? I'm guessing Const. will be you preist-recruitment-center from now on, anyhow?

[Rogal Dorn]

I wish I had a Merchant with a Finance level that high. Or two. Or ten. I'd be filthy stinkin' rich.

[Ishan]

Lol he is trained in a Cathedral and is a patriarch trained in a Theologian guild as well so no wonder he has 9 piety.
Burn a few heretics and Bam 10/10.

[preachercheeze]

the priest can start off with two traits with random value that affects piety; StrongFaith and NaturalPriestSkill (the merchant, spy and assassin only start with NaturalXSkill)... so you have a small chance with all your priest to get a whooping 6 piety at start, although it is not a big chance...

if you have a Theol. guild also that can net you another +1 - +2 in piety... and in SS 6.3 you are automaticly a bishop if you have fewer priests than regions, another +1 there... and if you have a cathedral, you can tget the archbishop ancillary or patriarch trait also...

I once had a priest (not bishop or cardinal!) that started with +13 piety (note: the total piety if you add up traits and ancillaries)!!! some of the piety came from ancillaries (nun, monk, royal seminarian) and most came from traits... And only 28 of age... at 30 he became cardinal and became the new pope at 36 when he had extremely high piety (can't remember though)... he ruled for 30 years with a firm and "bound" hand... hehehe

no screenies though... didn't know how to make them at that time... it was in 6.1 btw...

[SoulBlade]

Haha I actually have a master theologian guild and the Chosen One trait (NaturalPriestSkill 3) is based on luck, so I am pretty lucky to get this priest.

[Aranu]

blessed +1 (lowest normal priest skill) (chosen one +3)
Orthodox instruction +1(theologian Guild, this must be at the place you recruit)
Theologian's guild Journeyman +2 (theologian guild HQ, all priest get these if you have a HQ)
Bishop+1
this is what a lowest priest is for me 5 piety.
i don't have a cathedral yet.

growing faith +1, strong faith+2 is normal priest skill(like spies)
then you can kill heretics, also +1 and so on.
also you can purge heresy! you convert region like islam or pagan.
battler of heresy, +2 piety, 1 Eligibility, +1 purity, +1 Violence
enemy of heresy, +2 piety, +1 Eligibility, +2 purity, +2 Violence
Purger of heresy +3 piety,+2 eligibility, +3 Purity, +2 violence

eligibility= chance of becoming pope or cardinal i don't know exactly
and then their are ancillaries
choir boy, monk, crusader, royal seminarian, and so on.
luckily SS had a limit on priest or else i would have +30 easily 8 piety priest (i now have 16)
average is 7-8 piety

[Alavaria]

I actually turn out priests with 9/10 piety every single turn from Rome. For some reason they get a trait which is supposed to come from a master theologians' guild, but Rome only has a MasterTG.
There's anciallaries too, so I suspect when they go out and convert, they go past 10 piety to 12+ or so. Of course it is hard for them to become cardinals as I am excommunicated, and there's a crusade incoming to Rome >.>

[Alavaria]

7 with 10 Piety
1 With 9 Piety
3 with 8 Piety

They were all trained in Rome. Not sure if there is something special about Rome. Sadly, I had at least 5 or so more, but they died and I was too busy to replace them.
I'm gonna get a pope of mine into power, or else I'll keep killing popes until there's no cardinals that aren't mine. Just need to keep spamming them from Rome (also good for the governor).

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[barcamartin]

What exactly does Purity and Violence effect? The chance of the Pope calling Crusades and Inquisitions?

[preachercheeze]

What exactly does Purity and Violence effect? The chance of the Pope calling Crusades and Inquisitions?

yep... a violent pope is more prone on calling crusades and use aggressive behavior... a pure pope don't excom as often and demands higher approval for calling crusades... I have trouble right now with Scotland which have besieged and attacked York two times already and both times got slaughtered... but no excom yet...

[RabidSheepLegion]

yep... a violent pope is more prone on calling crusades and use aggressive behavior... a pure pope don't excom as often and demands higher approval for calling crusades... I have trouble right now with Scotland which have besieged and attacked York two times already and both times got slaughtered... but no excom yet...

I didn't know that, sweet, thx

[chris7ian]

7 with 10 Piety
1 With 9 Piety
3 with 8 Piety

They were all trained in Rome. Not sure if there is something special about Rome. Sadly, I had at least 5 or so more, but they died and I was too busy to replace them.
I'm gonna get a pope of mine into power, or else I'll keep killing popes until there's no cardinals that aren't mine. Just need to keep spamming them from Rome (also good for the governor).

Spoiler for Priests!: 

Looks like you should excommunicate the Pope.

have to end the turn in the province... and it is Rome, Jerusalem, Constantinople and an Iberian Province that represent Santiago de la Compostella (sic!)

Normally takes a few turns because the the chance is less than 100 percent.

[preachercheeze]

Normally takes a few turns because the the chance is less than 100 percent.

true... I just stated that you have to end the turn because the poster i quoted said that you get it if you go through the province...

[Alavaria]

Looks like you should excommunicate the Pope.

Yeah, well supposedly I have (in an RP sense) and installed my own anti-pope ^___^ And declared a crusade against the whole world. And declared that the pope's crusaders are all terrorists (no mercy!!).

In actuality, the latest pope is currently <dead, bottom of ocean> and the Papal States control <no land>.
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Priests can get +1 piety from a visit to Rome. The trait is (I think) called "Versed in Catholic Doctrine" or something. (The theologians guild gives "Orthodox Instruction"+1 and "Theologians guild journeyman" +2). I usually leave my priests for a while in Rome, they have a good chance to pick up Nun/Choir Boy and some others. I think even a paladin appeared for one (since Rome is the target of a crusade-ironically against me, but whatever).

[Meneth]

Priests can get +1 piety from a visit to Rome. The trait is (I think) called "Versed in Catholic Doctrine" or something. (The theologians guild gives "Orthodox Instruction"+1 and "Theologians guild journeyman" +2).

Trigger Priest_Visit_Rome_player
 WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

 Condition CharacterReligion catholic
       and AgentType = priest
       and IsRegionOneOf 111 Rome_Province
       and TimeInRegion > 1
       and FactionIsLocal
       and Trait PriestCatholicDoctrine = 0

 Affects PriestCatholicDoctrine 1 Chance 100

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Trigger Priest_Visit_Rome_Ai
 WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

 Condition CharacterReligion catholic
       and AgentType = priest
       and IsRegionOneOf 111 Rome_Province
       and TimeInRegion > 1
       and not FactionIsLocal
       and Trait PriestCatholicDoctrine = 0

 Affects PriestCatholicDoctrine 1 Chance 100
 Affects StrongFaith 1 Chance 100

Actually, only the AI can get piety from going to Rome.
PriestCatholicDoctrine only gives +1 purity.

[k/t]

There's a "Pilgrim to ..." trait that priests and generals can pick up in Rome and Leon. I've heard they can get it just by passing through the region.

[preachercheeze]

There's a "Pilgrim to ..." trait that priests and generals can pick up in Rome and Leon. I've heard they can get it just by passing through the region.

have to end the turn in the province... and it is Rome, Jerusalem, Constantinople and an Iberian Province that represent Santiago de la Compostella (sic!)