Which do you think might be the succesor in the throne of all elves in middle earth?
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Which do you think might be the succesor in the throne of all elves in middle earth?
the question is for general in middle earth
please vote
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and the winner is
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Last edited by dannyalex; September 20, 2010 at 07:59 AM.
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You talking about After Elrond in TATW? Or as in the third age in general?![]()
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What succesor,elves are imortal?
Gil-Galad was the last High King of the Noldor. Elrond would have been the only one who could have claimed the title or else maybe Galadriel. They chose not too, it's better I think that way, the Golden Age of the Noldor was over, the only remaining Noldor lived in Imladris and Lindon.
Oh, and Thingol and Celebron, they can't be High King over the Noldor since they are Sindar, and it's not needed to creata a High King of the Sindar title for only two kingdoms with some Sindar remain; Lothlorien and the Northern Mirkwood Elves, mixed up by Silvan and Sindarin influences.
A High King of the Elves was in the times the Elves were still great and powerful, in the First and Second Age, their empires powerful and with great cities.
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No, women cannot become 'King' (Queen) of the Noldor (or any Elves, for that matter). Remember Thingol, Beren, Lúthien and Dior 'Eluchil'.
There were a few with Galadriel and Celeborn in Lothlorien, I hope?They chose not too, it's better I think that way, the Golden Age of the Noldor was over, the only remaining Noldor lived in Imladris and Lindon.
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Maybe he is Sindarin, Tolkien later gives an entirely alternate history for Galadriel and Celeborn and flatly states that he prefers it. I sometimes wish CT had never published the Silmarillion because his father was decidely unhappy with it but had not updated the packaged writings at the time of his death with his new materials. The Silmarillion is a rough draft and was never meant to be published in its form by JRRT.
Among other things changed, origin of orcs, story of the Sun and the Moon, parentage of Gil-Galad, Elves continually morph into more formidable beings, power of the Elessar jewel in which it becomes the forerunner of the rings, Balrogs, damn you can go on and on.
Any elf.
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think that the poll could be more easier if Gil galad had a child.but i havent find anything,only in reality of middle earth his throne went to Finarfin but he is at Valinor
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but he was the last that had royal blood and etc
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Galadriel was of the eldest line of the Noldor nobility. She was the daughter of Finarfin, and cousin of Fingon. Who was Gil Galad's father.
Unlike Elrond. Galadriel had dwelt in Valinor before the first age of the sun had begun.
However. Elrond could claim descent from The Maiar, the Eldar, and Men.
Last edited by Incontinenta Buttox; September 01, 2010 at 11:00 AM.
I'm pretty sure that it would be Elrond. Never heard of a high queen, and if i remember correctly it's said in one of the appendixes, that Elrond was the heir of Gil-Galad, through his connection to Turgon.
Not entirely certain however.
Are Elf High-Queens strictly forbidden anywhere? Or is it just that there hasn't ever been one yet?
If there can be a Queen then Galadriel would seem to be a strong choice. If not then Elrond is tempting, but his claim also comes through the female line (Idril) so it may fall under the same rule.
I typed Celeborn to make clear what I meant, in case anyone doesn't know Galadriel!Unfortunately, they wouldn't have been able to answer my question then.
It is in one of the HoM-e books, the Noldor don't choose women to lead them.
The Enemy of Human Souls
Sat grieving at the cost of coals;
For Hell had been annexed of late,
And was a sovereign Southern State.
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There wont be a successor for the elves in middle-earth since nearly all elves (including elrond & galadriel & celeborn) left middle-earth after the third age ...
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