Rome Total War 2 should have campaign multiplayer

**Arcadia** · August 31, 2010, 06:09 PM

When CA gets around to doing RTW2 they should focus on making the campaign able to be played online with other folks. If anything this is what I'd like to see in a new Total war game, and since it's turn based ping shouldn't be a problem.

Who'd else like to see this? I'd be willing to pay extra for this kind of capability. Think it's feasible?

**|Sith| Max** · August 31, 2010, 06:39 PM

Well if the modders can do it then why wouldn't a multinational corporation? they ripped off NTW from a RTW mod to begin with so i think its only a matter of time before they notice that hotseats are very popular amongst the lesser skilled and/or more campaign oriented players. im confident they wont miss an opportunity to capitalize on new features.

**Cold** · August 31, 2010, 06:40 PM

I think so, but lets see what Shogun 2 brings first

**|Sith| Max** · September 02, 2010, 05:09 AM

Originally Posted by Cold

I think so, but lets see what Shogun 2 brings first

10 $ says there will be japanese people

**Lucarius** · August 31, 2010, 06:45 PM

ooh Shogun 2 Total War
doors to heaven are open...

**Consul Napoleon Bonaparte** · August 31, 2010, 09:15 PM

Never will happen.

**NotYetRegistered** · September 01, 2010, 09:26 AM

I'm fine with the current MP.

**Brusilov** · September 01, 2010, 09:35 AM

I thought that N:TW already had this feature. I would presdume if it was used then CA would include it in future releases.

**Simum** · September 01, 2010, 11:06 AM

The problem is not the ability to make, but the problems it could create with customers. Mind you I have not experienced the current multiplayer on NTW but I heard it is not what I think it should be.

1 - How to balance the factions? In Shogun 2 it looks like there will not be much variety so it is easier, but if you introduces varied factions the balance is a very difficult goal, after all there is campaign and battle balance.
2 - Are the battles going to be auto-resolved? Is anyone willing to wait for his opponent to battle someone else/the AI? Are all battles to be fought no matter the faction each one picked? Is it possible to include more than one player?

**Brusilov** · September 02, 2010, 07:12 AM

Originally Posted by Simum

The problem is not the ability to make, but the problems it could create with customers. Mind you I have not experienced the current multiplayer on NTW but I heard it is not what I think it should be.

1 - How to balance the factions? In Shogun 2 it looks like there will not be much variety so it is easier, but if you introduces varied factions the balance is a very difficult goal, after all there is campaign and battle balance.
2 - Are the battles going to be auto-resolved? Is anyone willing to wait for his opponent to battle someone else/the AI? Are all battles to be fought no matter the faction each one picked? Is it possible to include more than one player?

Well balancing is part of beta testing - so that should be taken care of.....

If you look at the N:TW MP campaigns they have rules - some games autoresolve all battles others fight them. I know there is a 'battle drop in' feature in N:TW - I've never used it but if the other players wanted to stay involved they could use that feature. I'm not sure if there is any control over who drops in though.

I guess it would be limited to two players - unless there are multiple armies and then someone could be iin charge of just one army each.

**Simum** · September 02, 2010, 08:29 AM

Originally Posted by Brusilov

Well balancing is part of beta testing - so that should be taken care of.....

If you look at the N:TW MP campaigns they have rules - some games autoresolve all battles others fight them. I know there is a 'battle drop in' feature in N:TW - I've never used it but if the other players wanted to stay involved they could use that feature. I'm not sure if there is any control over who drops in though.

I guess it would be limited to two players - unless there are multiple armies and then someone could be iin charge of just one army each.

Warcraft II with two almost exact factions was unbalanced.

I very much think that they do not want to devote resources to balance a dozen factions if they are not very similar. They never had to do that.

The drop-in looks interesting, but the rest of the options rely too much on the amount of patience someone has.

Think about it, if the battles against the computer are always auto-resolved and only the battles between two players are not, what if the auto-resolve screws you more than the opponent? Would that be fair?

To me, a true multiplayer campaign even has to involve more than 2 players but I know the problems with it.

**shikaka** · September 02, 2010, 08:39 AM

I missed this until now

Originally Posted by Simum

1 - How to balance the factions? In Shogun 2 it looks like there will not be much variety so it is easier, but if you introduces varied factions the balance is a very difficult goal, after all there is campaign and battle balance.

Completely unnecessery for campaign play!

I had very good games in Victoria for example. I was playing Uruguay, and a friend was playing the USA. Or he Granada, me Ottoman turks in EU2.

Or the Korsun pocket in a ww2 game? Should be hopeless with germans, but still fun.

2 - Are the battles going to be auto-resolved? Is anyone willing to wait for his opponent to battle someone else/the AI? Are all battles to be fought no matter the faction each one picked? Is it possible to include more than one player?

I think 2 civilised gamers can agree on this beforehand. (only play battles against each other, always autoresolve, or play important ones -while the other is a spectator)

**shikaka** · September 02, 2010, 05:52 AM

Originally Posted by Arcadia

When CA gets around to doing RTW2 they should focus on making the campaign able to be played online with other folks. If anything this is what I'd like to see in a new Total war game, and since it's turn based ping shouldn't be a problem.

Who'd else like to see this? I'd be willing to pay extra for this kind of capability. Think it's feasible?

Pay extra? WHY would you do that?

I would consider a campaign multiplayer a good addition, definietly more interesting then the MP battles.

I had some games remembering with Victoria and Hearts of Iron 2. Even though the AI is quite good in those games, a human opponent is always more challenging and if an ally, much more useful.

**|Sith| Max** · September 02, 2010, 09:40 AM

Originally Posted by shikaka

Pay extra? WHY would you do that?

I would consider a campaign multiplayer a good addition, definietly more interesting then the MP battles.

I had some games remembering with Victoria and Hearts of Iron 2. Even though the AI is quite good in those games, a human opponent is always more challenging and if an ally, much more useful.

Only if you can fight Human VS human battles in campaign. this is why currently used hotseat mods are simply a broken substitute in my eyes. Campaign with human players where it is actually possible to fight the other human as well would be akin to perfection.