Your Ancestors

[Dr. Croccer]

One half are Irish peasants and fishermen from the very Western shore of Ireland, the other are more murky, but come from the east of the Netherlands.

[Bringer Of Storms]

I've always had a problem with my ancestory. My mother's side is 100% Italian. Except it stops there. For my grandfather lived in an orphanage in Italy, so the lineage stops there. Can't track parents that don't exist. My father's side is 100% German, and when my Grandfather migrated to America from Germany, they butchered his last name at, Ellis Island I believe? So I'm still attempting to find out what our original last name was, for it was "Americanized."

[diez]

I can trace my ancestors from my father-father side,back to the early 19th century.At the time they were living in Central Peloponese in Greece...Later they moved to Epirus,most likely,because there was too much violence in the area at the time(not sure though).My family were mostly farmers and/or builders,stonemasons actually.A notable one,was my greatgrandfather who did manage to ambush/trap,kill some and finally make a group of about 20 Italians surrender,or something similar.
I will try my mother's side too,her origins are from Epirus too,but they have a name of Turkish origin.

[mynameisowen]

A notable one,was my greatgrandfather who did manage to ambush/trap,kill some and finally make a group of about 20 Italians surrender,or something similar.

I think a bit of backstory is required before people start getting confused with this Why is this a good thing??

[diez]

LOL,some hours after I wrote this I happened to hear the story again...My great-grandpa and a few others managed to force a group of about 30-40 Italians to retreat,and hide in cave...They did trapped them in there,and killed some of them,who tried to counter-attack until the rest surrendered.

I think a bit of backstory is required before people start getting confused with this Why is this a good thing??

Well,the fact that something is "notable" does not mean it is good or bad...I think is just worth mentioning(and I think it is in this case).
Besides that,why is this so bad?He was defending his homeland from invaders...Nor they did anything gruesome to the surrendered enemy.Also,a few professional soldiers could do great harm to the nearby villages,as they did later,by burning some of them,and killing many not able to fight people.

[mynameisowen]

What I mean is, what were the circumstances? When did it happen? I don't expect that your granddad went on a rampage for no reason. Was it WWII? I am partly interested and partly trying to forewarn you that some people may be like- wha?

[Diodredai]

What I mean is, what were the circumstances? When did it happen? I don't expect that your granddad went on a rampage for no reason. Was it WWII? I am partly interested and partly trying to forewarn you that some people may be like- wha?

Yet again Owen you struck comedic gold. I've been laughing for a good thirty seconds.
Let me set the scene: It is an autumn night. The greek village is all but calm, save for a few loud Italians camping outside the settlement. The Italians, having come for R&R to the beautiful greek countryside having been partying hard. Ever since their arrival they have been watched by greek farmer, by the name of Diez's grandfather. The villagers got on with them quite good: they could sell their surplus goods, such as fresh vegetables and the like at an increased price to the Italians (who even in a foreign land could not go without eating pasta for even a day).

One day however, everything changed. The Italians rode into the city on their red horses, which they called "Ferrari's". They approached the village elder, demanding an audience with (due to the bad dictionary that they brought with them) translated roughly to: I wish an audience with your king!
The elder, knowing the customs of old, decided that the descendants of the ancient kings must be brought. Unfortunatley for our Italians friends, the "village" they had camped in front of was none other than the ruins of Sparta.

The king, (who for some reason beared the name Leonidas) came forth. What is it that you want? - He asked in a furious tone.
Yet again our Italians friends, due to the incompetence of the writers of the dictionary asked instead of: We would like some mineral water and some housing for the night, said instead:
Earth, and water.
Unbeknownst to the Italians, they had just signed their death warrant. The Spartans, who remembered the tales of old, believed the Persians had come back for another round of good old fighting to the death. They threw the Italians into the village well.

The next scene was nearby, in the town restaurant (named Thermopülai) where the Italians asked: (again due to the bad translation) instead of saying: Please give me a fork and spoon, they said something along the lines of: Lay down your weapons!
To which the answer was: Molon labe! - Come and take them.

The next night the greeks descended upon the Italian encampment, armed with Haplon shields and spears, like their ancestors of old, they forced the Italians into a cave where they started killing them, however the Italians were saved when the nearby authorities, who were just putting up signs near the village: WARNING THIS VILLAGE CONTAINS DANGEROUS, VIOLENT GREEKS (EVEN MORE THAN THE ATHENIANS) found the Italians and rescued them.

Well atleast that scenario played in my head reading that comment.
Edit: Diez has answered the question. Blast. They should seriously start making a show where they take Persian tourists to Sparta, just for the fun of it.

[Jimmy-j]

Yet again Owen you struck comedic gold. I've been laughing for a good thirty seconds.
Let me set the scene: It is an autumn night. The greek village is all but calm, save for a few loud Italians camping outside the settlement. The Italians, having come for R&R to the beautiful greek countryside having been partying hard. Ever since their arrival they have been watched by greek farmer, by the name of Diez's grandfather. The villagers got on with them quite good: they could sell their surplus goods, such as fresh vegetables and the like at an increased price to the Italians (who even in a foreign land could not go without eating pasta for even a day).

One day however, everything changed. The Italians rode into the city on their red horses, which they called "Ferrari's". They approached the village elder, demanding an audience with (due to the bad dictionary that they brought with them) translated roughly to: I wish an audience with your king!
The elder, knowing the customs of old, decided that the descendants of the ancient kings must be brought. Unfortunatley for our Italians friends, the "village" they had camped in front of was none other than the ruins of Sparta.

The king, (who for some reason beared the name Leonidas) came forth. What is it that you want? - He asked in a furious tone.
Yet again our Italians friends, due to the incompetence of the writers of the dictionary asked instead of: We would like some mineral water and some housing for the night, said instead:
Earth, and water.
Unbeknownst to the Italians, they had just signed their death warrant. The Spartans, who remembered the tales of old, believed the Persians had come back for another round of good old fighting to the death. They threw the Italians into the village well.

The next scene was nearby, in the town restaurant (named Thermopülai) where the Italians asked: (again due to the bad translation) instead of saying: Please give me a fork and spoon, they said something along the lines of: Lay down your weapons!
To which the answer was: Molon labe! - Come and take them.

The next night the greeks descended upon the Italian encampment, armed with Haplon shields and spears, like their ancestors of old, they forced the Italians into a cave where they started killing them, however the Italians were saved when the nearby authorities, who were just putting up signs near the village: WARNING THIS VILLAGE CONTAINS DANGEROUS, VIOLENT GREEKS (EVEN MORE THAN THE ATHENIANS) found the Italians and rescued them.

Well atleast that scenario played in my head reading that comment.
Edit: Diez has answered the question. Blast. They should seriously start making a show where they take Persian tourists to Sparta, just for the fun of it.

Splendid , I'd like to +rep you for that, but I can't I need to +rep someone else first. But nice story though

[Mighty_Matt]

Splendid , I'd like to +rep you for that, but I can't I need to +rep someone else first.

Seconded,

These posts have great laugh out loud moments

[diez]

Yet again Owen you struck comedic gold. I've been laughing for a good thirty seconds.
Let me set the scene: It is an autumn night. The greek village is all but calm, save for a few loud Italians camping outside the settlement. The Italians, having come for R&R to the beautiful greek countryside having been partying hard. Ever since their arrival they have been watched by greek farmer, by the name of Diez's grandfather. The villagers got on with them quite good: they could sell their surplus goods, such as fresh vegetables and the like at an increased price to the Italians (who even in a foreign land could not go without eating pasta for even a day).

One day however, everything changed. The Italians rode into the city on their red horses, which they called "Ferrari's". They approached the village elder, demanding an audience with (due to the bad dictionary that they brought with them) translated roughly to: I wish an audience with your king!
The elder, knowing the customs of old, decided that the descendants of the ancient kings must be brought. Unfortunatley for our Italians friends, the "village" they had camped in front of was none other than the ruins of Sparta.

The king, (who for some reason beared the name Leonidas) came forth. What is it that you want? - He asked in a furious tone.
Yet again our Italians friends, due to the incompetence of the writers of the dictionary asked instead of: We would like some mineral water and some housing for the night, said instead:
Earth, and water.
Unbeknownst to the Italians, they had just signed their death warrant. The Spartans, who remembered the tales of old, believed the Persians had come back for another round of good old fighting to the death. They threw the Italians into the village well.

The next scene was nearby, in the town restaurant (named Thermopülai) where the Italians asked: (again due to the bad translation) instead of saying: Please give me a fork and spoon, they said something along the lines of: Lay down your weapons!
To which the answer was: Molon labe! - Come and take them.

The next night the greeks descended upon the Italian encampment, armed with Haplon shields and spears, like their ancestors of old, they forced the Italians into a cave where they started killing them, however the Italians were saved when the nearby authorities, who were just putting up signs near the village: WARNING THIS VILLAGE CONTAINS DANGEROUS, VIOLENT GREEKS (EVEN MORE THAN THE ATHENIANS) found the Italians and rescued them.

Well atleast that scenario played in my head reading that comment.
Edit: Diez has answered the question. Blast. They should seriously start making a show where they take Persian tourists to Sparta, just for the fun of it.

hahahahahahahahahahahahah!epic +reeeeeeeeeep

One of the few times I did laugh alone in front of my pc!

[diez]

Yes it was during the WW2.My fault,for not mentioning from the start,but i thought you would understand when I talked about Italian invaders.It was during one of the Italian assaults in the mountainous areas of Epirus.Sorry,I don't know any more information about this.

[WarlordZ]

Going a ways back: from my mom's side, Hungarian my ancestors were landed nobility originally from Transylvania and later moved to Hungary. From my dad's side my ancestors were officers in the Ottoman army, they were of Circassian origin and ended up in Egypt.

[Diodredai]

Going a ways back: from my mom's side, Hungarian my ancestors were landed nobility originally from Transylvania and later moved to Hungary. From my dad's side my ancestors were officers in the Ottoman army, they were of Circassian origin and ended up in Egypt.

WoW! First of all, hello there my distant cousin! I too am partly too a member of a Hungarian noble family from Transylvania. That's a pretty colorful past . So right now you are in Egypt I presume? Which language is the "offical" household language? Turkish, or Hungarian? There must be alot of fighting on how many hours did the battle of Mohács last, was the siege of Belgrade a honorful victory or not and the like .

[WarlordZ]

WoW! First of all, hello there my distant cousin! I too am partly too a member of a Hungarian noble family from Transylvania. That's a pretty colorful past . So right now you are in Egypt I presume? Which language is the "offical" household language? Turkish, or Hungarian? There must be alot of fighting on how many hours did the battle of Mohács last, was the siege of Belgrade a honorful victory or not and the like .

Sorry for the late response my friend. Yes we are distant cousins I am living in Canada now, and my parents spend half the year in Hungary (summers) and half in Egypt (the colder periods), that way they both get to be in their homes.

Lol, the language at home (when I still lived with my parents), was a big mishmash of Hungarian, Arabic, and English...to the outsider it must have sounded crazy. Now I speak a mixture of English and Persian at home with my wife. Are you currently living in Hungary?

[Diodredai]

I've got no idea, I'm not good at Hungarian history But I hit them with the marriage between Princess Piroska and John Komnenos. Thus, I'm related to her father, Lazslo I, and his father, Béla I

By all that is holy.... you should immediately hold a press conference! Saint László, was one of the greatest kings in Hungarian history, he conquered Croatia. He was a member of the Árpád dynasty, meaning that you are a descendant of the Árpád dynasty, a dynasty that died out on the male side. That would, in theory mean that you have a rightful claim to the throne of Hungary. I will refer to you from now on, as Prince Congratulations!

Are you currently living in Hungary?

Yes, I live in Budapest Hungary

[ChivalrousKiller]

By all that is holy.... you should immediately hold a press conference! Saint László, was one of the greatest kings in Hungarian history, he conquered Croatia. He was a member of the Árpád dynasty, meaning that you are a descendant of the Árpád dynasty, a dynasty that died out on the male side. That would, in theory mean that you have a rightful claim to the throne of Hungary. I will refer to you from now on, as Prince Congratulations!

Thanks! Then I'll claim the Hungarian throne immediately after I have restored the Roman Empire

[ChivalrousKiller]

My ancestry is actually quite blue-blooded. I don't know why, but by great-grandmother on the maternal side (I think), was of noble blood. A local historian wrote a compendium about my grandfather's ancestry some years ago. The results were quite awesome. There were kings and other rulers from Norway, Denmark, Sweden, England, Austria, Poland, Hungary, Aragon, Novgorod, The Byzantine Empire and Italy (just the ones I remember). Some examples were Alexios Komnenos and Duke Leopold of Austria (the 3rd crusade one). The oldest one was King Berengar II of Italy (10th century)

[Diodredai]

My ancestry is actually quite blue-blooded. I don't know why, but by great-grandmother on the maternal side (I think), was of noble blood. A local historian wrote a compendium about my grandfather's ancestry some years ago. The results were quite awesome. There were kings and other rulers from Norway, Denmark, Sweden, England, Austria, Poland, Hungary, Aragon, Novgorod, The Byzantine Empire and Italy (just the ones I remember). Some examples were Alexios Komnenos and Duke Leopold of Austria (the 3rd crusade one). The oldest one was King Berengar II of Italy (10th century)

Woah! Talk about royalty. I'm particularly interested in the Hungarian side, did the historian specify which ruling house? Just to cite a few: Árpád dynasty (Died out on main line), Habsburg Dynasty (Never were rightfully elected kings so I hope you are not from them ), Anjou Dynasty (From the Sicilian side not the French), Jagello dynasty (From the Lithuanian side)?

[ChivalrousKiller]

Woah! Talk about royalty. I'm particularly interested in the Hungarian side, did the historian specify which ruling house? Just to cite a few: Árpád dynasty (Died out on main line), Habsburg Dynasty (Never were rightfully elected kings so I hope you are not from them ), Anjou Dynasty (From the Sicilian side not the French), Jagello dynasty (From the Lithuanian side)?

I've got no idea, I'm not good at Hungarian history But I hit them with the marriage between Princess Piroska and John Komnenos. Thus, I'm related to her father, Lazslo I, and his father, Béla I

[Makrell]

My ancestry is actually quite blue-blooded. I don't know why, but by great-grandmother on the maternal side (I think), was of noble blood. A local historian wrote a compendium about my grandfather's ancestry some years ago. The results were quite awesome. There were kings and other rulers from Norway, Denmark, Sweden, England, Austria, Poland, Hungary, Aragon, Novgorod, The Byzantine Empire and Italy (just the ones I remember). Some examples were Alexios Komnenos and Duke Leopold of Austria (the 3rd crusade one). The oldest one was King Berengar II of Italy (10th century)

i am inclined to ask if you by any chance are called christian or fredrik, with your father being named the opposite.
also awesome being royalty, who is your oldest danish/swedish/norwegian ancestor who were a reigning king?