soldier battle model - where?

[attyla]

I'm moving some units from Kingdoms to my mod and first truble I have is missing model of soldier in EDU. For example i want to move khasseki cavalry, but when i want to start the game I receive in log message like this:

Could not find soldier battle model for unit type 'Khassaki' -

narurally first thing I do is changing tne name of soldier in EDU (for royal_mamluks for example), but it works for infantry units only. If I do it for cavalry I can run the game, but on battlefield I only can see horses.
So I would like to ask you for information about the plase I can find this bloody soldier battle model.

[Ishan]

Read this tutorial thoroughly coz u are missing a vital step in it.
[Tutorial] How to add a new unit into game

[attyla]

vital step? what you mean? Copying textures from the source folder to the destination folder? I've done it.

[Ishan]

Post ur BMDB and EDU entries plz.

[attyla]

modeldb:

8 khasseki
1 4
53 unit_models/_Units/ME_Light_Padded/khasseki_lod0.mesh 121
53 unit_models/_Units/ME_Light_Padded/khasseki_lod1.mesh 900
53 unit_models/_Units/ME_Light_Padded/khasseki_lod2.mesh 2500
53 unit_models/_Units/ME_Light_Padded/khasseki_lod3.mesh 6400
1
5 egypt
76 unit_models/_Units/ME_Light_Padded/textures/ME_Peasant_Variant_egypt.texture
77 unit_models/_Units/ME_Light_Padded/textures/ME_Peasant_Variant_normal.texture
38 unit_sprites/egypt_Khasseki_sprite.spr
1
5 egypt
66 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Middle Eastern_egypt_diff.texture
66 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Middle Eastern_egypt_norm.texture 0
1
4 None
9 MTW2_Mace 0 2
17 MTW2_Mace_Primary
14 fs_test_shield 0
16 -0.090000004 0 0 -0.34999999 0.80000001 0.60000002
12 khasseki_ug1
1 3
66 unit_models/_Units/ME_Light_Mail_Heavy_Mail/khasseki_ug1_lod0.mesh 121
66 unit_models/_Units/ME_Light_Mail_Heavy_Mail/khasseki_ug1_lod1.mesh 1225
66 unit_models/_Units/ME_Light_Mail_Heavy_Mail/khasseki_ug1_lod2.mesh 6400
1
5 egypt
85 unit_models/_Units/ME_Light_Mail_Heavy_Mail/textures/mtw2_ME_light_mail_egypt.texture
86 unit_models/_Units/ME_Light_Mail_Heavy_Mail/textures/mtw2_ME_light_mail_normal.texture
42 unit_sprites/egypt_Khasseki_ug1_sprite.spr
1
5 egypt
66 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Middle Eastern_egypt_diff.texture
66 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Middle Eastern_egypt_norm.texture 0
1
4 None
9 MTW2_Mace 0 2
17 MTW2_Mace_Primary
14 fs_test_shield 0
16 -0.090000004 0 0 -0.34999999 0.80000001 0.60000002

and EDU:

type Khassaki
dictionary Khassaki ; Khassaki
category cavalry
class heavy
voice_type Heavy
banner faction main_cavalry
banner holy crusade_cavalry
soldier Khassaki, 32, 0, 1
mount eastern armoured horse
mount_effect elephant -4, camel -4
attributes sea_faring, hide_forest, hardy, can_withdraw, can_formed_charge
formation 2, 4.4, 3, 6, 3, square, wedge
stat_health 1, 0
stat_pri 7, 5, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, piercing, spear, 25, 1
;stat_pri_ex 0, 0, 0
stat_pri_attr no
stat_sec 5, 3, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, piercing, sword, 25, 1
;stat_sec_ex 0, 0, 0
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 12, 5, 6, metal
;stat_armour_ex 6, 0, 0, 0, 5, 6, 4, metal
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 2
stat_ground 0, 1, -10, -1
stat_mental 11, impetuous, highly_trained
stat_charge_dist 45
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 970, 155, 85, 205, 970, 4, 290
armour_ug_levels 3
armour_ug_models Khassaki
ownership egypt
era 0 egypt
era 1 egypt
;unit_info 11, 0, 17

[attyla]

it seems i didn't make the same unit
Kasseki is not the same then kassaki
I cheking it now

[attyla]

It was that

I would like to ask another question.
I would like to make a mounted version of greeks firethrower. I have a simular problem. I made a new unit, but on battlefield I only can see horses.
What can be wrong?

[Ishan]

Glad it's fixed out for you u are learning fast gradually when we are stuck at some point and then by expressing our problem to someone it helps and when we are telling him we find the solution ourself.

Anyways i have never tried but i'll try to solve it. Post the entries for mounted greekfirethrowers.

[attyla]

Here you are:

type Mounted Firethrower
dictionary Mounted_Firethrower ; Mounted Firethrower
category cavalry
class heavy
voice_type Heavy
banner faction main_cavalry
banner holy crusade_cavalry
soldier Mounted_Firethrower, 8, 0, 0.5
mount eastern armoured horse
mount_effect elephant -1, camel -1
attributes sea_faring, hide_forest, hardy, can_withdraw, cannot_skirmish, start_not_skirmishing
formation 2, 4.4, 3, 6, 4, square
stat_health 1, 0
stat_pri 35, 3, greek_fire, 60, 2, missile, missile_gunpowder, slashing, none, 25, 1
;stat_pri_ex 0, 0, 0
stat_pri_attr ap, bp
stat_sec 4, 3, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, piercing, sword, 25, 1
;stat_sec_ex 0, 0, 0
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 8, 4, 5, metal
;stat_armour_ex 8, 9, 0, 0, 4, 4, 3, metal
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 4
stat_ground 0, 0, -2, 0
stat_mental 9, disciplined, highly_trained
stat_charge_dist 45
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 4, 1990, 590, 120, 95, 1020, 4, 190
armour_ug_levels 3, 4
armour_ug_models Mounted_Firethrower, Mounted_Firethrower_ug1
ownership byzantium
era 0 byzantium
era 1 byzantium
era 2 byzantium
;unit_info 10, 0, 16

and

19 mounted_firethrower
1 4
54 unit_models/_Units/ES_Mail/greek_firethrower_lod0.mesh 121
54 unit_models/_Units/ES_Mail/greek_firethrower_lod1.mesh 900
54 unit_models/_Units/ES_Mail/greek_firethrower_lod2.mesh 2500
54 unit_models/_Units/ES_Mail/greek_firethrower_lod3.mesh 6400
2
9 byzantium
66 unit_models/_Units/ES_Mail/textures/mtw2_ES_Mail_byzantium.texture
63 unit_models/_Units/ES_Mail/textures/mtw2_ES_Mail_normal.texture
51 unit_sprites/byzantium_Greek_Firethrower_sprite.spr
4 merc
66 unit_models/_Units/ES_Mail/textures/mtw2_ES_Mail_byzantium.texture
63 unit_models/_Units/ES_Mail/textures/mtw2_ES_Mail_normal.texture
51 unit_sprites/byzantium_Greek_Firethrower_sprite.spr
2
9 byzantium
61 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Greek_byzantium_diff.texture
61 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Greek_byzantium_norm.texture 0
4 merc
56 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Greek_merc_diff.texture
56 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Greek_merc_norm.texture 0
1
5 Horse
17 MTW2_Flamethrower
14 MTW2_Swordsman 1
21 MTW2_Arquebus_Primary 1
18 MTW2_Sword_Primary
16 -0.090000004 0 0 -0.34999999 0.80000001 0.60000002
23 mounted_firethrower_ug1
1 3
71 unit_models/_Units/ES_Greek_Greek_Heavy/greek_firethrower_ug1_lod0.mesh 121
71 unit_models/_Units/ES_Greek_Greek_Heavy/greek_firethrower_ug1_lod1.mesh 1225
71 unit_models/_Units/ES_Greek_Greek_Heavy/greek_firethrower_ug1_lod2.mesh 6400
2
9 byzantium
80 unit_models/_Units/ES_Greek_Greek_Heavy/textures/mtw2_es_greek_byzantium.texture
77 unit_models/_Units/ES_Greek_Greek_Heavy/textures/mtw2_es_greek_normal.texture
55 unit_sprites/byzantium_Greek_Firethrower_ug1_sprite.spr
4 merc
80 unit_models/_Units/ES_Greek_Greek_Heavy/textures/mtw2_es_greek_byzantium.texture
77 unit_models/_Units/ES_Greek_Greek_Heavy/textures/mtw2_es_greek_normal.texture
55 unit_sprites/byzantium_Greek_Firethrower_ug1_sprite.spr
2
9 byzantium
61 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Greek_byzantium_diff.texture
61 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Greek_byzantium_norm.texture 0
4 merc
56 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Greek_merc_diff.texture
56 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Greek_merc_norm.texture 0
1
5 Horse
17 MTW2_Flamethrower
14 MTW2_Swordsman 1
21 MTW2_Arquebus_Primary 1
18 MTW2_Sword_Primary
16 -0.090000004 0 0 -0.34999999 0.80000001 0.60000002

[Taiji]

Try swapping the animation/skeleton with one that can work on horseback. Exchange these infantry anims:

17 MTW2_Flamethrower
14 MTW2_Swordsman 1
21 MTW2_Arquebus_Primary 1
18 MTW2_Sword_Primary

with the same section from a mounted musket unit. It might work, never tried it personally.

BTW did this unit ever really exist? I imagine that the horses might get scared...

[Ishan]

Try this entry:-
1
5 Horse
16 MTW2_HR_Arquebus
18 MTW2_HR_Non_Shield
1
24 MTW2_HR_Arquebus_Primary
1
18 MTW2_Sword_Primary
16 -0.090000004 0 0 -0.34999999 0.80000001 0.60000002

@Taiji
I have never heard of such a unit historically neither mounted nor infantry. Greek fire was used only in naval battles.

[attyla]

Ishan
There was mounted units using flamethrowers.

Your entry must have such an error, because the game can start, but crash when i want to start the battle.

[Taiji]

attyla
Copy it from an existing mounted musket unit, like I said.

[attyla]

I've done it. The game can start normally, but when i want to start the battle, the game crasch. Log olny inform about the error. Without details. Standard communique if modeldb contains errors.

I would like to ask very silly question. I supose the answer is "no", but i just want to make sure
Is there possibility to change primary weapon of all greek, arabian and nomadic heavy cavalry to spear without changing textures?
Perhaps you know something about mod doing it?

[Ishan]

I really don't get ur question but every cavalry unit has a spear or a lance as it's primary weapon so it order to change it u need to edit the mesh file itself with it's corresponding texture as well.

[attyla]

Almost all heavy cavalry units in the game use lance, but in real no of arabian and nomadic heavy cavalry never used knigsts lances. They only used light and heavy spear. I have no idea who sed to games authors thad Arabs, Turks or Byzantines used knights lances
It's horrible.