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    Default A serious question to all our self-proclaimed 'anti-jihad/anti islam' activists...

    Do you lot have any ideas for solution for the so called 'islamic problem'? I ask because outside of decrying anything involving muslims as being an atrocity and calling everyone and their mums a dhimmi, I've never seen you suggest anything.
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    Let time take care of it.

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    Yeah im sure people would embrace that willingly and peacefully every where.

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    Yeah im sure people would embrace that willingly and peacefully every where.
    doesnt matter if they like it. Its the only solution. And we cant enforce it. It must be the people of those nations that enforce it themselves.
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    enforcing it could be more violence to prevent violence.

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    Default Re: A serious question to all our self-proclaimed 'anti-jihad/anti islam' activists...

    Ok, so far we've got strong secular education. That's a start, but we've yet to hear from any of TWC's resident jihad watch celebrities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nce_wht_guy View Post
    Do you lot have any ideas for solution for the so called 'islamic problem'? I ask because outside of decrying anything involving muslims as being an atrocity and calling everyone and their mums a dhimmi, I've never seen you suggest anything.
    Nothing, they've got absolutely nothing. And you know why? Because they don't actually care, they're not really interested in making things better or solving problems, they just want to rile people up to score points for their respective political platform.

    I have not once seen someone with the attitude you describe propose anything to solve the various problems which did not involve some sort of ethnic cleansing.
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    That's pretty much what I'm thinking. It's really hard to solve a problem when that 'problem' is basically a fifth of the human race. But who knows? Maybe I'll get an answer. I doubt it will be a very good one. But it beats the vague, hostile responses they usually give. Should be good for a laugh if nothing else.
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    You'll get a violent answer.


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    Hey now, some of them support deporting muslims. That's a solution!




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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvis View Post
    Hey now, some of them support deporting muslims. That's a solution!
    Alright, that would be a horrible violation of the rights of countless private citizens and be a breach of the principle of freedom of religion, but it's an answer I guess. What about indiginous converts or crypto-muslims? And what about the billion or so muslims living in other countries? If they're engaged in a war to bring down 'the west' deportion wouldn't be much of a solution.
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    Perhaps my better judgment this will remain open, but it needs some real* responses or it will be closed.

    Further straying will not be looked upon kindly.



    *more real responses... upon re-reading this I think I misinterpreted a fair margin of the posts in here, but the warning still stands.
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    The solutions are vague or stupid when you actually take a closer look, like most of the ideology. The most common proposals are discrimination and forced secularisation. Apart from the fact that this would only lead to tensions, it directly contradicts there reasoning. Islam is supposedly the worst thing since Communism and Nazism, if not worse than both. It wants to destroy us all through indoctrination and is inherently unchangable. How the hell are a few laws going to restrain it's evil? Surely something that has remained unchanged and dogmatic for 1400 years will resist attempts to secularize and pacify it through weak laws.

    The option would then have to be deportation. That wouldn't solve it either. Islam will still be it's obvious evilness, only outside of our borders. How can we allow this evil to exist on our doorstep? We must destroy it.

    The problem with Islamophobic solutions is that they so antagonized Islam, turned it into such an evil thing in their mindset, that it's very hard not to want to destroy it and exterminate or re-educate it's followers. Which would obviously make them sound like genocidal Nazis, a comparison they really want to avoid. So we get this silly situation in which Islam is supposedly the most evil thing since Nazi-Communists, but with absolutely no solutions to it's existence and, upon prompting, many Islamophobes renounce violence in regards to Muslims. Which makes them look like cowards in their own reasoning, as they are unwilling to deal once and for all with the Islamic danger.
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    Muslims are taking over the world and destroying our culture from the inside. We need a soloution to the Muslim problem. A final soloution. I think I have just the idea - we'll need a shower chamber, and a lot of Zyklon B.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ♔Goodguy1066♔ View Post
    Muslims are taking over the world and destroying our culture from the inside. We need a soloution to the Muslim problem. A final soloution. I think I have just the idea - we'll need a shower chamber, and a lot of Zyklon B.

    PM me for further info...
    You know, that solution wasnt completely tested, perhaps the testing should be finished before actually using it on someone else...
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    An agreement between the government, local authorities and muslim communities that would allow muslims to prey their god, without radical influences would be a good start. Which means that Imams supporting sharia, making anti-western speaches and so on should be reported by muslims themselves and expelled. (OMG HOW DO I DARE DEPORT PEOPLEZZ !!!)
    Also, a censored version of the Quran, without those parts that may cause misinterpretation and discriminative practices. (OMG THEN YOU HAVE TO CENZOR THE BIBLE TOO!! Yeah, I would).

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    Perhaps my better judgment this will remain open, but it needs some real* responses or it will be closed.

    Further straying will not be looked upon kindly.



    *more real responses... upon re-reading this I think I misinterpreted a fair margin of the posts in here, but the warning still stands.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ♔Goodguy1066♔ View Post
    Muslims are taking over the world and destroying our culture from the inside. We need a soloution to the Muslim problem. A final soloution. I think I have just the idea - we'll need a shower chamber, and a lot of Zyklon B.

    PM me for further info...
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    Satirising a political position is political debate....ish. But yes, there is sadly, as my Maths lecturer said, No Real Solution, as there are No Real Roots (the value of the Roots is imaginary).
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    Ok, we can add censorship of religious media. What about sharia as an informal, personal code? Just about every religion has a system of 'law', but that does not mean it has run contrary to, or supersead national law. I only ask because I know this would be an issue. It's hard to really be a muslim without adhearing to sharia in some sense. (Before you start, I am aware of the 'Islam can only be properly practiced within an islamic state' arguement. But I think it's fair to say at the very least the debate is still open on this.) But that doesn't necessarily mean institutionalized sharia. I'd also remind you it's hard to deport citizens. Unless you think laws should be passed that would make muslims an exception to this somehow, or barred them from becoming citizens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nce_wht_guy View Post
    Ok, we can add censorship of religious media. What about sharia as an informal, personal code? Just about every religion has a system of 'law', but that does not mean it has run contrary to, or supersead national law. I only ask because I know this would be an issue. It's hard to really be a muslim without adhearing to sharia in some sense. (Before you start, I am aware of the 'Islam can only be properly practiced within an islamic state' arguement. But I think it's fair to say at the very least the debate is still open on this.) But that doesn't necessarily mean institutionalized sharia. I'd also remind you it's hard to deport citizens. Unless you think laws should be passed that would make muslims an exception to this somehow, or barred them from becoming citizens.
    I suggested a ''lighter'' version of the Quran, that would include a ''ligher'', acceptable, version of sharia.

    As for the citizenship issue, since they shouldn't have received it in the first place, which means strip them.

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